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Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 08:01 AM


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FirstLightFarms said:
Ohhhmygoodnes.

Why does his head need to go down? Is the horse jumping with his head? No. Focus on his body. Look at the back, and look at the hind end. Work on him engaging, work on getting him to lift his core. The head will fall into it's natural frame.

To me it sounds like the horse has no balance- head held high and wanting to bolt off is something I see in horses that don't know how to shift their weight onto their hind end. Do lots of lifted pole work to get him using the hind end, lots of transitions, backing up and turns on the haunches.

Tying your horse's face down will only make the problem worse. A horse relying on a standing martingale to hold its head down is a horse that is bracing against the martingale. What does bracing do? Hollow out the back and disengage the hind end. And what does that do for your ride? Sure, the head is down and pretty... but nothing else is. Worry about everything else and the head will follow through.


I honestly agree on this ^
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 02:46 PM


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Clearly nobody cares to read and listen to me saying this is my forum not yours, if you want to help others with tack and such start your own forum.
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 02:48 PM


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Raindrop Ridge said:
Clearly nobody cares to read and listen to me saying this is my forum not yours, if you want to help others with tack and such start your own forum.

Maybe you should post it bold on the first post
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 02:58 PM


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This is a public forum and everyone may post here.

Please try to give propper advise and stay nice to experienced users that may have a bit more knowledge than others instead of trying to play a know-all.


Advise on real life horse problems is nothing that should be given without any knowledge of the REAL situation.
Horse, tack, rider, discipline etc... and thereoff resulting problems should ALWAYS get discussed with the REAL trainer who knows the combinations.
Anything else is kind of reading in the marble ball ;)
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 03:02 PM


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Well I know Peace, and I know their issue, I sold the horse to them and I had the same issue. IÂ’m also visiting them, and itÂ’s just the head thatÂ’s bad. HeÂ’s got the right pads, a custom saddle and Bridle, correct bit and rider is doing the right thing.
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 03:10 PM


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So why do you discuss this via this forum and getting sneaky to other users that ask for these informations?

Getting "the head down" should be the result of correct and propper riding the horse - and should NOT result via various tie downs or martingals.


Just as simply as it is, the correct and right way to ride a horse should always result in a correct head set without any additional help.
If you keep to have problems, you should ask your trainer for additional lessons and learn how to ride this horse in a way that it is able to perform a propper head set - if any other problems like health, tack or riding issues are checked already.

"use an even shorter martingal" is a suggestion, that would be an absolute no go for me and - sorry - does not make me believe in your experience ;)


Edited at September 18, 2019 03:14 PM by Kuewi KNN Stable
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 04:54 PM

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Kuewi KNN Stable said:
So why do you discuss this via this forum and getting sneaky to other users that ask for these informations?

Getting "the head down" should be the result of correct and propper riding the horse - and should NOT result via various tie downs or martingals.


Just as simply as it is, the correct and right way to ride a horse should always result in a correct head set without any additional help.
If you keep to have problems, you should ask your trainer for additional lessons and learn how to ride this horse in a way that it is able to perform a propper head set - if any other problems like health, tack or riding issues are checked already.

"use an even shorter martingal" is a suggestion, that would be an absolute no go for me and - sorry - does not make me believe in your experience ;)




Agreed ^^
Rainy’s Tack Help September 18, 2019 08:55 PM


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Ok, letÂ’s just be done with RedÂ’s question and move on.
Rainy’s Tack Help September 20, 2019 02:51 AM


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Any tips on bending stubborn horses? The mare I ride is huge and quite a bully, so it can be a pain to get her to bend properly. She can do it very well, it's just tricky to get her to do it.

And I'm quite sure it's not a problem with her back hurting, her safe not fitting, etc. She can just be stubborn about bending. If I do some leg yields off a circle, she usually gets her head in the game and behaves, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any other tricks.
Rainy’s Tack Help September 20, 2019 07:17 AM

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Ivy Wood Stables said:
Any tips on bending stubborn horses? The mare I ride is huge and quite a bully, so it can be a pain to get her to bend properly. She can do it very well, it's just tricky to get her to do it.

And I'm quite sure it's not a problem with her back hurting, her safe not fitting, etc. She can just be stubborn about bending. If I do some leg yields off a circle, she usually gets her head in the game and behaves, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any other tricks.



Sometimes I have this problem as well (although I’ve got a big guy so it’s a bit harder for him at times) but I find thinking of riding shoulder fore or incorporating some trever/ haunches in or shoulder in helps me get him bending. Also doing lots of figures helps a lot too, like serpentines

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