Vampire Acres
07:18:07 Vamp / Vampire
I'm going to start buying AA's from you san
Vampire Acres
07:17:26 Vamp / Vampire
san
cute!
Vampire Acres
07:16:03 Vamp / Vampire
I didn't realize he is the father of both of the new foals.... guess the foals are half siblings lol
-HEE Click-
Santana Rising
07:15:34 San
-HEE Click- I got him from my random last minute breedings - and he has my boy Dragonflight in his pedigree (I bred that one on my original account when EEE was the best you could get)
Grimm Acres
07:15:05 Grimmi
My color barn was bred up from a few of Sans SPP girls
Vampire Acres
07:13:26 Vamp / Vampire
I think I'm going to start to get into AA's again
Santana Rising
07:10:09 San
yeah, my AAs have a lot of frame, my SHs and TBs don't (apart from my TB braves, there frame runs rampant), it's always a risk when breeding two frames together.
Vampire Acres
07:10:09 Vamp / Vampire
and the mom of the one that died did have frame in her
-HEE Click-
Vampire Acres
07:09:14 Vamp / Vampire
san
I bought your AA's and bred them Thats only 1 out of 2 the 3rd one died
Santana Rising
07:07:19 San
I really like her, silver and tobi -two of my favourite things in this game!
Vampire Acres
07:06:24 Vamp / Vampire
I don't a good feeling about you...
-HEE Click-
Santana Rising
07:05:07 San
well yeah, because none of the parents has frame. Foals don't just perish at random.
Tamarack Mountain
07:04:59 Opal
yes
Waitangi Warmbloods
07:04:35 
Question.. If horses are in pasture can they breed autonomously if they are of age???
Vampire Acres
07:03:28 Vamp / Vampire
at least you didn't perish
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Tamarack Mountain
07:02:52 Opal
lol
Vampire Acres
07:02:19 Vamp / Vampire
Oops! - Sadly the foal was lethal white and perished. -

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Help with picking up horses feet March 8, 2023 11:51 AM
Burn N Turn
 
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Hey y'all I need some more ideas to help with getting my new rescue boy to lift up his feet and stand for the farrier. I've been working on his feet with him every warm weekend since I got him and I don't seem to be getting anywhere with him. I've tried using a long lead to get him to lift and have space between him and I since he likes to move and try to lie down when trying to lift his feet. And he'd only lift his back left foot for a few seconds and that was it. For a reference he is 17hh Quarter horse, he is a rescue from ryons rescue pen. I am 5'1 so I am super super short and have to work extra hard to be able to get his feet up so please any extra help or advice would be great. My farrier can't help me work with him as she just had surgery done, but his feet are getting bad enough they're starting to hurt him and I don't want to result to sedating him in order to have them done without trying to get him to pick them up.
Help with picking up horses feet March 8, 2023 06:07 PM

KPH Equestrian
 
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What I do is grab the pastern and press my elbow into the back of their knee and push them over a little with my shoulder so they shift their weight. Works most of the time :)
Just grab his hoof firmly, lean your shoulder into his, and push, then bend your arm to press your elbow into to back of his knee all at the same time, and presto! His foot is in your hand :D With hind hooves it's a bit harder, but to keep the hoof up I kinda put my knee in front of either their knee or pastern, whichever hoof I'm doing, them if they try to pull away, it hits your knee and and they can't go any further :) If you use the farrier method of having their hoof between your legs, it's super easy for them to pull back real hard out of your grasp then kick out cuz they weren't expecting it to come out that easy xD
Hope this helps, he's a chonky boi so it will probably be more difficult ^^; Wish I could be with you to work with him lmao
Help with picking up horses feet March 8, 2023 07:55 PM
Burn N Turn
 
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Thank you yah my farrier can't help since she just had surgery. But he has a hard time staying still in anyway and struggles so hard with keeping it up or lifting when I go out this weekend I'll get a video to kinda show.
this is my trouble boy
Help with picking up horses feet March 8, 2023 08:00 PM

DaisyMeadowEventing
 
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I agree with KPH's advice. I've also found succes with first using a dressage whip or something similar to tap behind the knee while clucking, as soon as he lifts his foot even slightly reward and release the pressure. The tapping should be light but increase the longer it takes for him to lift it up, it shouldn't hurt but should be annoying not to pick it up. The idea is to give them the idea of picking it up on their own with a small tap or click so then you can easily ask for it. I hope this makes sense lol it's late here 😅 for teaching him how to hold his leg for the farrier, I would do what KPH said!
Help with picking up horses feet March 10, 2023 11:27 AM

KPH Equestrian
 
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I like Daisy Meadow's method too<3 I taught my welsh pony to pick up his hoof when you tap his leg, cluck, and say 'hoof/gimme hoof'. Now he picks it up when you bend over next to him xD If your horse already knows cues from a crop, then that can be a really useful training tool as well, as he already associates it with having to do something.
Help with picking up horses feet March 10, 2023 06:48 PM

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._KPH_. said:
I like Daisy Meadow's method too<3 I taught my welsh pony to pick up his hoof when you tap his leg, cluck, and say 'hoof/gimme hoof'. Now he picks it up when you bend over next to him xD If your horse already knows cues from a crop, then that can be a really useful training tool as well, as he already associates it with having to do something.


My mares are like that too XD they will put their foot into your hand LOL
Help with picking up horses feet March 10, 2023 07:22 PM

HMH Reality Check
 
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Gently squeezing a horses chestnut can help with lifting their hooves, especially with a horse who doesn't understand. Just be patient, move slow and reward losts!
Help with picking up horses feet March 10, 2023 10:09 PM
Burn N Turn
 
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Thanks everyone and he seems to know a few things with the whip but not sure how much when I talked to his old owners after I found them they said he's had little to no training at all anywhere in anyway. He is 7yrs old, and as stubborn as an "ass" so to say and he hates standing still at all in anyway and hates walking and just wants to move if I lunge him he won't just walk he has to really move. He is a full on project from head to toe
Help with picking up horses feet March 11, 2023 02:29 PM

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i have a mustang who was a pain to pick up his feet when i first got him because he would jerk them and side pass and all that and thats when we were actually able to touch him...when we first got him he was terrified of even having his legs touched. The thing that worked with us was getting him to yeild his hindquarters before and after lunging yeilding his forquarters and getting him to have control of his feet before even trying to pick them up. Try ryan rose's youtube channel if you need to hes a great trainer and alot of his methods work wonders. The other important thing that worked with our gelding was taking it in baby steps and rewarding the good but kind of ignoring the bad. When we started with him picking up his feet all we wanted was just 2 inches off the ground. No cleaning no hassle nothing he just has to pick it up. if he did he got a treat and if he jerked it he got nothing but we tried again. he picked this up pretty quick and realized if he holds it up he gets a treat and if he doesnt it doesnt benefit him at all. After doing this for about 10 minutes you should be able to introduce the hoof pick and use the same rewarding tactic. (after 3 days of doing this my gelding now stands for all his feet to be looked at, treated, cleaned, and picked out) its really all about baby steps and not expecting him to go from 0-100 in his training right away. Its a pretty big thing that you're asking from him to stand still and give away the use of one of his legs when hes never really been asked. If hes not really into you touching his legs in general then id start with pressure and release with touching his legs first before trying to pick them up. Lunge him and when hes getting his release from lunging rub his legs and give him a treat or walk away. This teaches him that you touching his legs is actually a release of pressure rather than added pressure. This being because the lunging was the added pressure. This will also make him think of being more relaxed when having his legs and feet handled and he will be alot more likely to stand still because he wants to stand still.
i hope at least some of this helps good luck with your boy

Edited at March 11, 2023 02:31 PM by Wings Of Glory
Help with picking up horses feet March 12, 2023 10:25 AM

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My horse I rescued from a severe abuse and neglect situation and he was abused by their farrier aswell so it was super scary for him, but here is how I got him happy with being his feet and legs handled!
Pick their feet up everyday, multiple times a day
Its going to be a pain at first, but it pays off
I also teach a verbal command 'give' when I ask for their foot
If they do, give a treat (I use a bit of hay)
Work on increasing the time they are asked to hold it. Once they get the hang of it I dont reward with food anymore, but in the beginning it helps them associate it with something positive.
Practice patting the sole of their hoof with your hand if hes going to get shoes, because it'll help desensitize him to it before hand
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To ask them to pick up their foot, I do the same thing as what KPH said, and add the 'give' command
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Also! If your horse doesnt like this specific farrier, get a different one if possible. The first farrier I tried, my horse tried to kick him, I apologized, and the guy said he wouldnt work with my horse, which I get.
The next one, despite being very scared, my horse was less defensive around him. And that farrier was amazing with my horse, super patient and calm, and just had him do circles if he acted up or needed to move his feet, and then brought him back and continued trimming his feet. And gave him lots of pats when he did well
Horses really pick up peoples 'vibes', and if a person reminds them of someone that hurt them, even if its not the same person, they'll react quite visibly.
But 2 years later and my horse loves the farrier and is super good about getting his feet picked up. Its a long process, but stick to it! ♥️

Edited at March 12, 2023 10:29 AM by Lucky Ranch

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