 04:58:43 Im Elf Puck
Yes!! She definitely has a thing for Wildcard hahaha
Court
Oooo I'll be watching her for sure |
04:58:23 Terici/Dino/Trish| -HEE Click- im debating on doing this |
04:57:46 Court| But I have 3 boys in mind for her but I need to see how her training goes first 👀 |
04:56:59 puck| oh dang I'm glad gidget finally behaved. she really did not like me lmfao |
04:56:54 Court Hopefully I'll find a mare he likes one day XD
That filly was definitely a surprise 👀 |
04:56:20 Eagle This ro I'll actually be using top ABLB boys #3 #4 and #9 I was in time to get straws finally XD
I have to find 2 more broods going to be expensive. Its been a while since I've really but effort into finding good boys. |
04:55:45 Im Elf Court
I'm sorry :(
He can be an ass sometimes
He seems to love that one mare "Gidget" tho
I am totally jealous of her
-HEE Click- |
04:55:44 puck| ... and i took that personally |
04:55:26 Terici/Dino/Trish 04:54:20 Court That tobi eee girl 👀👀👀
I am so jealous 👀 Wildcard hates me :,) |
04:53:58 Grimmi| -HEE Click- i suppose its a start |
04:53:55 | Okay the breed that won is SH :) |
04:53:29 Court| *smashes the watch horse button* |
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The first one looks like a cow lol |
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Hawkeye Farms said:
Cherry and Gold Bards aren't known fin nippers. They can be when hassled however, basically the only time I've ever seen mine turn into fin nippers is if someone nipped their fins first. They are some of the easiest barbs to raise, compaired to Dennison, Tiger, Odessa, and Snakeskins. I've kept Cherry Barbs with my bettas a number of times in a 29 gal tank. The thing to remember is to make sure they have space to school, and can get away from a precieved threat to them.
I'll have to look into aquariums as soon as I can, I like it when tanks come with their respective stands XD It means I don't have to make two trips to the fish store. |
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Well got my 6gal Betta Tank set up in my home office. I think it looks good, and I hope my betta will be happy once he's out of the quarentine tank and his new home cycles. |
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Edited at March 3, 2023 09:24 AM by Bluejays Meadows
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A 10 gallon is way to small to have 7 platties in it. And if you're going into breeding you need at least a 40 gal breeder tank, and use the 10 gal for a birthing tank. |
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A quick post, Let's dive in! Tank size: I'm pretty sure I covered this already, But it never hurts for a reminder. What is tank size? Length, Width and Height, (This does NOT excuse ignorance) How many fish in a 10 gallon tank? Just 1 fish and 1 snail, That's all you can have in a 10 gallon tank, Hence the reason they are called 'Nano tanks' ''The staff at the fish store said, One inch per gallon, I can have 10 fish in a 10 gallon tank'' Uhmm, No you can't, First off that's abuse and secondly that is extremely poor husbandry, you obviously don't care or just 'skipped' through my whole forum and read what YOU assumed were the 'important parts' Jokes on you, Everything in this forum that I have been teaching IS important, I haven't been around but that doesn't mean I'm done, Far from it, Yes I welcome everyone to this forum, What I won't tolerate is overcrowding, neglect, abuse. It's a no no, If you can't use however few or dwindling brain cells you might or may not have, Stay out of my lab and off my forum, Thank you. Now that I have hopefully cleared the air, Let's talk about 'Aquarium kits' You ever notice how they advertise on their boxes, Fish that are clearly too large for the tank? Yeah that's how they lie to you so that you'll buy their product and cram fish that are waaay too large for said tank, If you know better then you more than likely will only put 1-2 fish in a nano tank together, No this does not mean breeding pairs. Aquarium kits come with almost everything. Here is what they come with: x1 Aquarium. x1 Lid/LED light. x1 Aquarium net. x1 Sample jar of fish food. x1 Sample bottle of Water Dechlotinator. x1 Sample bottle of trash 'Cycle' and x1 Manual. Here's what they don't come with but should. x1 Manual of Appropriate species (Example) 10 gallon tank. x1 Beginners guide to fish keeping. x1 Journal for keeping notes/ track the cycle process for each day. x1 Aquarium. x1 Canopy. x1 LED light or Plant light (For the fish keeper to save money) x1 Aquarium mat. x1 50% discount for matching aquarium stand/cabinet x1 Detailed guide book on fish and sizes. (Tanks 10-20 gallons should only house (10 gallons) 1-2 SMALL fish and a 20 gallon should only house 2-3 EXTRA SMALL to SMALL fish and no more. x1 Lifetime warranty. x1 A QR code to download apps should the light be Bluetooth controlled, It is so easy to download the WRONG app. x1 500ML bottle of Dechlorinator. x1 16oz bottle of Nutrafin Cyle (This is one of the few brands that I trust) x3 bags of fish food, for Omnivores, Herbivores, and Carnivores (That way if the fish need a mixture of all 3 you wouldn't have to spend even MORE money, Have you SEEN the prices of fish food? It's insane.) And, x1 12 month supply of test strips. x1 Net. Too bad fish stores and LFS won't make or offer a custom aquarium kit or care bundle to customers, Our hobby would be SO much better if they did. Why? Simple, the smaller the box and the less stuff included in the box means that YOU will come back and buy more from them, thus putting more money in their corporate pockets and less money in yours, As I've said before, Fish stores and LFS don't give a crap about what they tell you, as long as they make an easy sale they'll tell you that Oscars can live in a 75 gallon tank and Silver Dollars can too, Which isn't true, Like I said, They. Don't. Care. I care though, It's why I come off as so tough 'scary' or 'mean' If I didn't care I never would've made this forum, In fact I would've said 'Hah, let them eat cake' And kept everything I know too myself but I didn't do that, Just like, Dogs, Cats, Horses, Birds etc, Fish don't have voices they can't tell us verbally 'Oh hey my tank is too small, I need a bigger one' No that's up to the owner, and hopefully said owner can tell when a fish needs more space and even more room to swim, play, eat, hide and most importantly of all, Get those zoomies out, African Peacock Cichlids for example, they require massive tanks and that is because of how bloody active they are. Now for those of you who were worried I had run off to join a secret aquarium scientist organization, No that's not quite what happened..o.o But I should write that down juuuuust in case, I have stepped back from the hobby to focus on something I have been avoiding but after doing more research than I honestly should've into it, I am going to save up and build my own gaming PC though that won't be for like 4 months, After that, I'm getting a new bed, and finally (Hopefully) I will get the last few things for my 45 gallon bow front and THEN, AT LAST get my 75 gallon tank and stand, The stand I am going to buy is from Wayfair (I'll let you guys know if it was worth it or not) Hasty, what about your betta fish!? OH, He's still a go, but I'm going to get the tank, stand etc last since I have a lot on my plate already. ''What if I get stuck or I'm not sure what to do?'' Well, You can message me on here and I will do what I can to help you, I'm not available on weekends or during my birthday which is on June 2nd if you didn't already know, I can answer your questions or help you solve something that you might be struggling to deal with (Diet, Tank size, Lighting, Filter, Supplements, Medications, e.g, How much to give etc, Breeding and how to properly care for wigglers, Freshly hatched fry, Plants, and tank mates.) Lastly, I am extremely busy so posting is going to be delayed but not forgotten, I was sick for a while there but I have made a full recovery and am proud to say that I am no longer Snotzilla. ''Ahem, Hasty, Aren't you forgetting something?'' Not today Satan! No debunking myths, I'm cutting you off..For now, Damn junkie. That's all I have for you for now, Remember, Don't overstock your tanks, Until next time, Byee! |
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LOL Hasty. I need to post a photo of my betta in my Q-Tank. It's set up like the one that is cycling so it'll look familiar once I get a good pic of Midnight. |
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Every single source I've looked at says what I have is fine, and that I shouldn't have only 1 or 2. But I'm so sorry. No one has ever educated me on this and I feel terrible. I didn't realize this was wrong and ill stay off this forum. |
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You don't have to stay off this forum hon. Hastings may come off as harsh, but they are a very passionate about the hobby and have done tons of research as I have. I've been dabbling with the fish hobby for about 3 decades. It's a learning curve, and sad to say a lot of my learning curve was trial and error. And I do feel bad for the fish I accidently killed because I didn't know any better at the time. As Hasty has also said big box pet stores and a lot of LFS will sell these sets to make more money and tell people what they want to hear to make a sell. Now it's rare but sometimes you'll get a big box store (Petco, PetSmart, Pet Land) employee who knows what they are talking about and will tell you what you need to know to start up. I have a guy at my local Petco who has over 30 tanks in his place, and when I was looking to get back into fish I had a quarentine tank set up all ready for my Betta (it cycled 6 weeks), and when I went to go get the stuff for the main tank he asked me what size, if I had everything I needed, and when I told him I couldn't find a fliter for a 6gal tank he led me right to the right filter and asked if I knew the pros and cons of the brands that they had. Thankfully I did, and he and I had a long talk about health for the fish. He and I had to talk a person out of buying some expensive fish right when they bought a new tank and hadn't cycled it, and they were buying about 30 fish for a 10 gallon tank that were all different species that weren't compatable with each other. I've raised platties, mollies, swordtails, and guppies at various points in time. Live bearers can be great fish to have, and great starter fish because they are farily hardy, and the number you have is a good mix of males to females for your school. However it's usually best for a school to have 10 fish for a good school and for the fish to feel safer, and a 10 gal is way to small for a school of that size. The only problem with live bearers are they breed like crazy, and will be canibals to the fry. Your other two females are probably pregnant as well just not showing yet. As to your cory cats they also like to be in a school. You can get away with a bare minimum of 3, but they like schools of 5 to 10 to really thrive and be happy. Cory cats tend to be some of my favorite bottom dwellers in the tank, and I usually keep a few with my betta in my 6gal tanks to help keep the bottom of the tank clean (and I always went with the smaller of the species. Albinos, Pandas, and Skunks can grow big yes but not as big as the peppered, green, Aldophi, and a few others.), and yes I know Hasty will yell at me for that, but if they don't seem happy I moved them to my larger tanks which is usually what happened with the exception of one or two cory cats that just loved hanging with my bettas. With my current tank it's only my betta. I don't plan on putting anything other than a snail with him due to the fact he doesn't seem to want company. He's happy being on his own and being belligerent to the tv and the hamster...... I swear the rodent loves to piss off that fish. Your research was correct in saying you shouldn't just have one or two of a schooling fish. For them to be really happy they need a minimum of 5 to a max of 20 depending on the size of tank. For the amount you have bare minimum of tank size you need is a 20L. When I had a 20L, I had a school of 7 Neon Tetra in a well planted tank, and they had a bristle nose pleco at the bottom of the tank along with 4 cory cats. The tank was good enough for the tetras to have their zoomies and look pretty doing it. Now that tank was a bit over stocked, but at the time I was doing good matience on it with water changes and testing the water. I didn't have any issues with it. Another thing did your reseach tell you that with Platties you need to add a little aqurium salt to the tank? You don't need a whole lot just a small amount. Platties, Mollies, and Guppies while freshwater fish do like a little brackish water because of the esturaries they live in in the wild. It's okay if you don't have the salt since your Platties are probably several generations of domestic Platties.
Bluejays Meadows said:
Every single source I've looked at says what I have is fine, and that I shouldn't have only 1 or 2. But I'm so sorry. No one has ever educated me on this and I feel terrible. I didn't realize this was wrong and ill stay off this forum.
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Thanks so much for this. Yes, I do use aquarium salt in my tank, and I have a water conditioning formula that I use that is specifically made for fish like Platies, Guppies, and Cory's. I'll definitely seriously consider getting either a 20 gallon or 30 gallon tank, and keep everything you two have told me in mind to ensure my fish are well taken care of. Once again, thanks :)
Hawkeye Farms said:
You don't have to stay off this forum hon. Hastings may come off as harsh, but they are a very passionate about the hobby and have done tons of research as I have. I've been dabbling with the fish hobby for about 3 decades. It's a learning curve, and sad to say a lot of my learning curve was trial and error. And I do feel bad for the fish I accidently killed because I didn't know any better at the time. As Hasty has also said big box pet stores and a lot of LFS will sell these sets to make more money and tell people what they want to hear to make a sell. Now it's rare but sometimes you'll get a big box store (Petco, PetSmart, Pet Land) employee who knows what they are talking about and will tell you what you need to know to start up. I have a guy at my local Petco who has over 30 tanks in his place, and when I was looking to get back into fish I had a quarentine tank set up all ready for my Betta (it cycled 6 weeks), and when I went to go get the stuff for the main tank he asked me what size, if I had everything I needed, and when I told him I couldn't find a fliter for a 6gal tank he led me right to the right filter and asked if I knew the pros and cons of the brands that they had. Thankfully I did, and he and I had a long talk about health for the fish. He and I had to talk a person out of buying some expensive fish right when they bought a new tank and hadn't cycled it, and they were buying about 30 fish for a 10 gallon tank that were all different species that weren't compatable with each other. I've raised platties, mollies, swordtails, and guppies at various points in time. Live bearers can be great fish to have, and great starter fish because they are farily hardy, and the number you have is a good mix of males to females for your school. However it's usually best for a school to have 10 fish for a good school and for the fish to feel safer, and a 10 gal is way to small for a school of that size. The only problem with live bearers are they breed like crazy, and will be canibals to the fry. Your other two females are probably pregnant as well just not showing yet. As to your cory cats they also like to be in a school. You can get away with a bare minimum of 3, but they like schools of 5 to 10 to really thrive and be happy. Cory cats tend to be some of my favorite bottom dwellers in the tank, and I usually keep a few with my betta in my 6gal tanks to help keep the bottom of the tank clean (and I always went with the smaller of the species. Albinos, Pandas, and Skunks can grow big yes but not as big as the peppered, green, Aldophi, and a few others.), and yes I know Hasty will yell at me for that, but if they don't seem happy I moved them to my larger tanks which is usually what happened with the exception of one or two cory cats that just loved hanging with my bettas. With my current tank it's only my betta. I don't plan on putting anything other than a snail with him due to the fact he doesn't seem to want company. He's happy being on his own and being belligerent to the tv and the hamster...... I swear the rodent loves to piss off that fish. Your research was correct in saying you shouldn't just have one or two of a schooling fish. For them to be really happy they need a minimum of 5 to a max of 20 depending on the size of tank. For the amount you have bare minimum of tank size you need is a 20L. When I had a 20L, I had a school of 7 Neon Tetra in a well planted tank, and they had a bristle nose pleco at the bottom of the tank along with 4 cory cats. The tank was good enough for the tetras to have their zoomies and look pretty doing it. Now that tank was a bit over stocked, but at the time I was doing good matience on it with water changes and testing the water. I didn't have any issues with it. Another thing did your reseach tell you that with Platties you need to add a little aqurium salt to the tank? You don't need a whole lot just a small amount. Platties, Mollies, and Guppies while freshwater fish do like a little brackish water because of the esturaries they live in in the wild. It's okay if you don't have the salt since your Platties are probably several generations of domestic Platties.
Bluejays Meadows said:
Every single source I've looked at says what I have is fine, and that I shouldn't have only 1 or 2. But I'm so sorry. No one has ever educated me on this and I feel terrible. I didn't realize this was wrong and ill stay off this forum.
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Not a problem. Go with a 30 if you can afford it, but if you have the space a 55gal is a good tank to go with as well, and use your smaller tanks as a nursery tank until the fry are big enough to join a larger community tank. And ironically the bigger the tank the easier it is to care for in the long run I've found. Make sure you cycle your new tank and check water ph balances daily to chart how the cyclcing goes. It takes anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks to fully and safely cycle a tank. Once it's cycled you can add your fish to it. I don't recommend moving all your fish over to a new tank at once, but sometimes you may have to do that to keep the school happy. Just make sure once you can move them over you acculmate them to the new tank slowly and carefully.
Bluejays Meadows said:
Thanks so much for this. Yes, I do use aquarium salt in my tank, and I have a water conditioning formula that I use that is specifically made for fish like Platies, Guppies, and Cory's. I'll definitely seriously consider getting either a 20 gallon or 30 gallon tank, and keep everything you two have told me in mind to ensure my fish are well taken care of. Once again, thanks :)
Hawkeye Farms said:
You don't have to stay off this forum hon. Hastings may come off as harsh, but they are a very passionate about the hobby and have done tons of research as I have. I've been dabbling with the fish hobby for about 3 decades. It's a learning curve, and sad to say a lot of my learning curve was trial and error. And I do feel bad for the fish I accidently killed because I didn't know any better at the time. As Hasty has also said big box pet stores and a lot of LFS will sell these sets to make more money and tell people what they want to hear to make a sell. Now it's rare but sometimes you'll get a big box store (Petco, PetSmart, Pet Land) employee who knows what they are talking about and will tell you what you need to know to start up. I have a guy at my local Petco who has over 30 tanks in his place, and when I was looking to get back into fish I had a quarentine tank set up all ready for my Betta (it cycled 6 weeks), and when I went to go get the stuff for the main tank he asked me what size, if I had everything I needed, and when I told him I couldn't find a fliter for a 6gal tank he led me right to the right filter and asked if I knew the pros and cons of the brands that they had. Thankfully I did, and he and I had a long talk about health for the fish. He and I had to talk a person out of buying some expensive fish right when they bought a new tank and hadn't cycled it, and they were buying about 30 fish for a 10 gallon tank that were all different species that weren't compatable with each other. I've raised platties, mollies, swordtails, and guppies at various points in time. Live bearers can be great fish to have, and great starter fish because they are farily hardy, and the number you have is a good mix of males to females for your school. However it's usually best for a school to have 10 fish for a good school and for the fish to feel safer, and a 10 gal is way to small for a school of that size. The only problem with live bearers are they breed like crazy, and will be canibals to the fry. Your other two females are probably pregnant as well just not showing yet. As to your cory cats they also like to be in a school. You can get away with a bare minimum of 3, but they like schools of 5 to 10 to really thrive and be happy. Cory cats tend to be some of my favorite bottom dwellers in the tank, and I usually keep a few with my betta in my 6gal tanks to help keep the bottom of the tank clean (and I always went with the smaller of the species. Albinos, Pandas, and Skunks can grow big yes but not as big as the peppered, green, Aldophi, and a few others.), and yes I know Hasty will yell at me for that, but if they don't seem happy I moved them to my larger tanks which is usually what happened with the exception of one or two cory cats that just loved hanging with my bettas. With my current tank it's only my betta. I don't plan on putting anything other than a snail with him due to the fact he doesn't seem to want company. He's happy being on his own and being belligerent to the tv and the hamster...... I swear the rodent loves to piss off that fish. Your research was correct in saying you shouldn't just have one or two of a schooling fish. For them to be really happy they need a minimum of 5 to a max of 20 depending on the size of tank. For the amount you have bare minimum of tank size you need is a 20L. When I had a 20L, I had a school of 7 Neon Tetra in a well planted tank, and they had a bristle nose pleco at the bottom of the tank along with 4 cory cats. The tank was good enough for the tetras to have their zoomies and look pretty doing it. Now that tank was a bit over stocked, but at the time I was doing good matience on it with water changes and testing the water. I didn't have any issues with it. Another thing did your reseach tell you that with Platties you need to add a little aqurium salt to the tank? You don't need a whole lot just a small amount. Platties, Mollies, and Guppies while freshwater fish do like a little brackish water because of the esturaries they live in in the wild. It's okay if you don't have the salt since your Platties are probably several generations of domestic Platties.
Bluejays Meadows said:
Every single source I've looked at says what I have is fine, and that I shouldn't have only 1 or 2. But I'm so sorry. No one has ever educated me on this and I feel terrible. I didn't realize this was wrong and ill stay off this forum.
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