Sundance
01:08:10 Sun/Sunny/Rose
Nice!

One word: CRAP. No good foals. My one SA got a PEE from an EWW + WWW match. 50k brood. 😭 I bought an EWW mare on my TB account though so she'll be fun to breed.
Sagruesal
01:02:19 Ru
I can make my pc render and warm up the room, lol
Sagruesal
01:01:40 Ru
Ohh since weather is cold again, I can stay home and continue working on my contest entry, I'm happy
Hot 2 Trot
01:01:35 Holly
Sunny
I'm doing the exact same thing xD
It was great managed to get a EWW which i'm happy about. How was yours?
Sundance
12:57:34 Sun/Sunny/Rose
Holly sorry I keep disappearing, I am arting xD. Trying out new hair style!

I'm pretty good! How was your RO?
Someday Farm
12:54:07 
Sleep is always a good idea. My 7 month old hasnÂ’t slept through the night once, which means mom hasnÂ’t either. Have sweet dreams for me!
Darkside Dreams
12:53:29 Grape the Haphazard
Thanks B! Have a great night everyone!
The Barefoot Barn
12:52:57 B
Grape-

Okay, well, get some good rest!! Good luck tomorrow if I don't get online when you are :)
Darkside Dreams
12:52:04 Grape the Haphazard
Mana certainly did deliver on that one *^*
Okay! I love them both so much but I'll start with the Mana piece!
...tomorrow. I said I would sleep a while ago.
Sagruesal
12:51:09 Ru
Yeah, first one is dramatic!
The Barefoot Barn
12:50:46 B
The first one, most definitely!!
Someday Farm
12:49:54 
The first one is serving all the drama!
Darkside Dreams
12:48:25 Grape the Haphazard
I think I'm going to get this palette back to how it was and say it's complete, then move on to a new one to hone my skills more and differently. Which art piece should I do first?
-Click-
-Click-
Hot 2 Trot
12:47:32 Holly
Sunny
Eh could be better, how bout you?
Sundance
12:47:01 Sun/Sunny/Rose
**Luna
Sundance
12:46:51 Sun/Sunny/Rose
Lune Omg! 👀👀

Grape no it's beautiful!

Holly, how are you?
Sagruesal
12:45:29 Ru
25 geldings in one year, have to get rid of them all
Painted Perfection
12:43:48 Luna The Gene Queen
-HEE Click-

Ohh how beautiful
Hot 2 Trot
12:42:58 Holly
Hi Ru!
Someday Farm
12:42:48 
Fundamentals are the building blocks of fun, is what I tell my riding students. But I also hide messes when they are overwhelming. Gotta love the messiness of being human!
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R+ Training? December 21, 2022 09:50 PM

Cherry River Elites
 
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Does anyone know anything about the process of R+ retraining?
I'm working with a horse who is both incredibly stubborn and very dramatic. He'll spook at anything he can, especially when you're on his back. I think there's been a lot of times he's done something and has gotten away with it, especially because he is at a beginner barn-he's just picked up subconscious habits. He's very nice on the ground, much less spooky and very polite (unless you have food, in which case he's up in your face-we're working on that) which tells me it's mostly in how he's been ridden. I don't know much about his past except that I know a few girls who've ridden him and they say he was awesome until something happened or shifted in his brain and he just kind of went downhill, and is being re-worked back into riding. I don't know much about it.
Because of this, and because I don't know what he's been trained with, I want to see if I can retrain him just a bit to be more polite both on ground and in saddle. R+ training seems like the best option from what I've read and heard, and I'd like to attempt it. I get the basic gist-using positive reinforcement to encourage a behaviour. However, I don't know the process, and I want to make sure I can avoid anything going wrong if possible, so I wanted to check with some people who are more professional to see if y'all have any experience.
So, to sum up: what would the process be for R+ retraining with a stubborn horse?
R+ Training? December 22, 2022 09:28 AM

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Shelby Dennis on YouTube is amazing, she works with lots of different horses with +R
And Warwick Schiller on YouTube also has a ton of videos working with all sorts of horses and fixing different behaviors
Not sure about his older videos, but his new ones he's very patient and nice to his horses
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Also if you were taught with traditional horsemanship methods, it will probably take you some practice to get the hang of it and let go of some of those harmful ways of thinking
I think a big part of training with positive reinforcement is having a plan before you go into something, and not punishing them/getting mad when they make mistakes. I was taught with traditional horsemanship methods, and it was 'your horse is going to go where you're going, going to do exactly what you say, and if he makes a mistake/spooks, spank him'
So yeah that took a lot of unlearning for me and now I approach every problem with a plan and break it into small chunks
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If the horse is spooking, try to figure out at what
My horse was super scared of the donkeys (even though they were pretty far away lol)
So we approached and retreated from the donkey and I gave him scratches and some hay everytime he approached the donkey and everytime he calmly walked away
We sort of went in a circle (went up to the donkey, walked away, circled back) and eventually my circles became smaller and smaller because he was comfortable being closer.
And then got to a point where he would stand calmly next to the donkey and touch noses with him
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I think desensitization can also help a ton when it comes to spooking. And being calm and confident with your horses and around spooky things and they start to develop the same attitude.
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I reward with verbal praise, scritches in places he likes, and hay (normally a mix of bermuda and alfalfa)
If your horse is food aggressive I wouldn't reward with food until you've fixed that issue, but rewarding with pats and scratches and verbal praise is great!
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I'm not sure since I'm not there/don't know this horse, but lots of groundwork can really help teach willingness in a horse. Hand walking trails (if you have them) can help to
Also it could be this horse doesn't do well with whatever training method is being used on them, and is confused or potentially angry or resentful. Or just doesn't trust the people in charge to make decisions that will keep him safe
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When I got my horse he was quite stubborn because he didn't trust people, and then as he started trusting me I think he thought I would treat him similar to how his previous owner did which was 'you work, and I sit here and order you around' so groundwork and hand walking trails helped a lot not only because they built his muscles and desensitized him to lots, he learned that we are working together, and Im not going to ask him to do anything unreasonable.
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Also another thing about the spooking, I think it's really important for you to decide the level of your horses fear. Sometimes you have to give him a little push, get him past his fears, and he realizes it wasn't so scary and feels better, and you reward him and either call it a day or keep working with him on whatever you were working on prior to the spook
And other times, it's just best to safely end whatever you were working on and get your horse to an area where they can relax. Because they are so scared that pushing them is just going to make it more stressful, decrease their trust in you, and you don't accomplish anything!
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Anyways, I wish you good luck with this new horse! Feel free to DM me, I've worked with a good amount of horses with similar behaviors as yours so I'd love to offer help or send links to videos that have helped me because I know how frustrating it can be sometimes
Edit: this is quite long, I'm sorry I think I got a bit carried away 😅😂

Edited at December 22, 2022 09:31 AM by Shenandoah
R+ Training? December 22, 2022 09:56 AM

Cherry River Elites
 
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That's actually so helpful, thank you so much!
R+ Training? December 26, 2022 12:42 PM

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happy to help! ♥️

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