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vfiowva February 11, 2024 02:50 PM

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None of this was an attack. I think it's "insensitive" to view it as one. Everyone, including myself, wish the best for you and your horse.

Edited at February 11, 2024 02:51 PM by Azalea Equine
vfiowva February 11, 2024 03:15 PM

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no insensitive is continuing after i asked you not to. insensitive I purposely dragging it on when no one wants it to. insensitive is taking something someone made out of joy and excitement and demolishing it, destroying it with no regard for the person.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 03:25 PM

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Amazing Grace Equine said:
no insensitive is continuing after i asked you not to. insensitive I purposely dragging it on when no one wants it to. insensitive is taking something someone made out of joy and excitement and demolishing it, destroying it with no regard for the person.


It's called concern, we all want you to be able to enjoy your horse for his whole life, and make sure it's long and happy. Starting a horse too young is objectively unsafe, and can cause permanent physical and psychological damage.
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Insensitive is risking permanent damage because you wanted to ride a horse, or couldn't wait another year to start riding. We know you love him very much, and we'd all hate to see him have to be put down or retired early because of a crucial mistake made eary in life.
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We all want what's best for you, just take it into consideration. Nobody was attacking you<3
vfiowva February 11, 2024 03:29 PM

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I'm sorry if what I said hurt you, I didn't mean any harm. I've seen horrible things happen to Innocent animals(which I believe you are trying to do right by your horse), and may seem insensitive when I really actually care a lot. I do hope you have success with your horse and his training.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 04:21 PM

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Hi bestie no one was attacking you, we were just pointing out facts and science and looking out for your horse
Id also suggest looking into using a different vet because any vet worth their salt will not tell you its fine to ride a 2 year old because they are in no way finished growing :)
Have a nice day!
vfiowva February 13, 2024 06:57 PM

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I prefer starting colts at 2, getting a good 30 days of easy rides in, and then turning out and riding once or twice a month until they're 4. Everybody's different, every horse is different, what works for you won't work for me and vice versa. Instead of everybody piling on to say how awful it is to ride a 2yr/o, maybe keep that in mind.
vfiowva February 15, 2024 12:19 AM

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The Lady of Fangorn said:
I prefer starting colts at 2, getting a good 30 days of easy rides in, and then turning out and riding once or twice a month until they're 4. Everybody's different, every horse is different, what works for you won't work for me and vice versa. Instead of everybody piling on to say how awful it is to ride a 2yr/o, maybe keep that in mind.


same we start all of ours at two
vfiowva February 15, 2024 12:27 AM

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ok ima set this here starting a horse a 2 is better than staring at 3 although only walk trot and getting your horse in the bridle no jumping or loping when you start a horse at 3 or 4 there will be worse problems as your starting it 'late' as the horse could be harder to start or even handle on the ground from not being started at a younger age i hope this helps a bit
plus they said they walked over a small crossrail
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ghost light stables said:
ok ima set this here starting a horse a 2 is better than staring at 3 although only walk trot and getting your horse in the bridle no jumping or loping when you start a horse at 3 or 4 there will be worse problems as your starting it 'late' as the horse could be harder to start or even handle on the ground from not being started at a younger age i hope this helps a bit
plus they said they walked over a small crossrail


I don't fully agree with this. As someone who has started a 13-year-old that hasn't had anything done with it, they can be stubborn, but overall, you just have to work at their pace and they will get there.
In my experience, starting a horse later doesn't make it harder as long as you have put some work into the horse on the ground. If you take the time to form a solid bond with the horse and set them up for success with the groundwork, then they will usually be easier to start. If you just throw a foal out at pasture and don't do anything with it until it is 4 and try to pull it up and start it under saddle immediately, it will obviously be harder.

Hopefully, that made sense and came out right. Its 3 a.m. here, and my brain is mostly fried lol

Edited at February 15, 2024 02:25 AM by ShiningStar Stables
vfiowva February 15, 2024 10:13 AM

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ShiningStar Stables said:

ghost light stables said:
ok ima set this here starting a horse a 2 is better than staring at 3 although only walk trot and getting your horse in the bridle no jumping or loping when you start a horse at 3 or 4 there will be worse problems as your starting it 'late' as the horse could be harder to start or even handle on the ground from not being started at a younger age i hope this helps a bit
plus they said they walked over a small crossrail


I don't fully agree with this. As someone who has started a 13-year-old that hasn't had anything done with it, they can be stubborn, but overall, you just have to work at their pace and they will get there.
In my experience, starting a horse later doesn't make it harder as long as you have put some work into the horse on the ground. If you take the time to form a solid bond with the horse and set them up for success with the groundwork, then they will usually be easier to start. If you just throw a foal out at pasture and don't do anything with it until it is 4 and try to pull it up and start it under saddle immediately, it will obviously be harder.

Hopefully, that made sense and came out right. Its 3 a.m. here, and my brain is mostly fried lol


I completely agree. It helps if we think of them as people(I multiply their age by 3 to get a general sense of their age in terms of human development, it's not perfect but works well enough). Sure, it's ideal and very common to teach children to read and write around age 6-9(2-3 for horses), but it won't be very difficult work for them. And a lot of people who learn English as a second language do so as adults if they move to the US, or at least as teenagers. It's not impossible to teach an old dog new tricks. You just need to adjust your training speed/rate a tad for them. I started a Welsh pony when he was about 10, he learned incredibly quickly, and since I can no longer ride him, we do liberty training.He learned all of this after he was completely done growing, physically and mentally. There's no rush to training a horse, and you especially don't want to push them too hard.

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