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Hi everyone, I would love some advice. I've been tracking the progress of my horses, matching them on the match maker, ensuring to pair horses for the best outcome, etc etc. However, I feel like despite all of that, in the end, the outcome is more random thant based on time, effort and logic put into pairing. Am I wrong here? It's just odd that outcome in real life would be far superior than outcome in a game. Is the end goal to get you to pay for magic color medallions to improve outcome? Multiple breedings between W/W/E and W/W/W where the match is perfect but the outcome is PPP is beyond frustrating. Also, what is the point of the match maker? If you have the stats of your horses and you can see if it's a good match or not, why do you "need" to enter it in the matchmaker? Having the pair in the matchmaker doesn't seem to do anything of benefit and just takes even more time. Please advise. I have put 3 months (real time) into research and planning with very little results that, again, appear to be completely random. I feel like I would end up with equal results without spending all the time and effort meticulously planning. I have read all the forums, followed all the best advice, done everything necessary and yet I keep getting PPPs. What am I missing? |
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I personally never put my horses in the matchmaker, it's more for keeping track of who's getting bred to who then anything else, and I use a notes app for that. I understand where you're coming from as well, I had a lovely match that was literally perfect, they had great training and were on the boards, and I used a Sven. The foal was a flop. This game is definitely more difficult than real life. Also, sometimes certain horses are really bad producers, despite their training or LB standing. |
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I second what Sagebrush said - I've had plenty of flop foals from incredible pairings, but eventually I also ended up getting some pretty awesome, high ranking foals. Part of it is luck/a roll of the dice (called random factor or RF) but another part is slow learning, obtaining good producing stock, and having more experience with matching. Have you ever had a friend or mentor take a look at your matches? Sometimes it is really helpful to have a second set of fresh eyes looking over them to make sure you aren't missing something. Someone who's experienced is preferable. :) My inbox is always open in case you want a second opinion on a match! |
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While experience in the sense of a video game as simplistic as this is somewhat relative, I think we can all agree, nothing here is rocket science. When someone is clearly able to understand the basic logic behind what a good pairing is, and spends the time to make good pairings with WWE+/WWW raited horses and yet has consistent PPP foals, it makes it apparent that random factor is far more prevalent than expected. While, if we look at it from a business stance, it makes more sense to have less W+ foals by minimizing the ability to produce them. However, for users spending time proactively managing their breeding stock, it creates frustration when you learn the hard way that the random factor has far more impact than all the time spent managing solid pairing. I've had a lot of communication via personal contact from people who know me in the real world and understand why I was looking at this game. So while I'm dissapointed in the breeding parameters, at least at this point I understand the reality of the game play. It's not what we hoped for, but it is still a good game for enteraintment purposes and the art work is lovely. - Please feel free to close and/or remove this thread. |
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If all of the carefully planned matches resulted in a WWW foal then these would become far too common. To get a good foal should be a surprise and a delight. It happened with EEE that there became too many of them in the game, thence devaluing them. So W was introduced and now, I fear, they are becoming too common. What next, another level of excellence? |
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I consider every breeding RNG with a small chance to produce a foal better than its parents. Good foal? Nice! Bad foal? No big deal. |
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I think I remember my friend who was still playing here then say that when W was added Eve said it wasn't like the other ratings. She made it much more "narrow" to make it harder to stay inside the W lines when breeding so that it wouldn't be so easy to mass-produce W's. But I don't think she foresaw Svens and medallions and glasses being used on so many pairs every month. Back when I played before PPP was the cream of the crop, so it's weird to see how devalued they are now. |
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Buckleaze said:
If all of the carefully planned matches resulted in a WWW foal then these would become far too common. To get a good foal should be a surprise and a delight. It happened with EEE that there became too many of them in the game, thence devaluing them. So W was introduced and now, I fear, they are becoming too common. What next, another level of excellence?
I literally jump for joy every time I get a WWW, I'm so happy 😆 |
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Sagruesal said:
I consider every breeding RNG with a small chance to produce a foal better than its parents. Good foal? Nice! Bad foal? No big deal.
This :) It's definitely frustrating when carefully planned and/or perfect matches result in less than expected quality, but as others pointed out, if every foal by a carefully planned match was WWW, soon the game would be overrun and the rating would carry no meaning at all. But don't think that your carefully planned matches mean nothing. You *are* learning and matching correctly; now you just need a bit of luck and experience to make everything align. When I was first starting, all I could afford was one expensive match to a top ABLB stallion per month (that's your best chance at WWW) and I always did it first. If I bred a filly that seemed stronger than her dam, I would start focusing on her instead of the dam when she was ready. After that expensive match (or two, if I could afford it), I didn't look for expensive studs anymore, I just looked for fun/cheap color stallions and hoped that luck might throw me a pretty, higher rated foal. If not, though, I'd just try again the next month. Eventually, I bred the #1 ABLB stallion. It took real life YEARS. All that to say - you're on the right path, but success in this game is a marathon, not a sprint. It's much better to look at your growth over time than over a couple of months. You'll have matches that flop, but inevitably you'll have matches that surprise you in a good way. Take some pressure off yourself and know that you're not doing anything wrong; that yes, there's a luck aspect to it as well, but don't forget to have fun! If it's becoming stressful, maybe just focus on a color side project for awhile, something where ratings are not so crucial. P.S. you do not have to use the matchmaker if you don't want to. It's just a tool to look at the stats between a mare and stud or to save a match for the future so you know which mares you're pairing with which stallions. It's just a tool to keep track of things. |
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In response to your comment on the match maker, no it doesn't give you any advantages breeding outcome wise, but I find it super convenient to save all the studs my mares match with in one place that I can easily reference. I go through the LB whenever I get a new mare and save the matches that pair best so when it's time to use her, I know what options I have instead of scrolling through the LBs again and again. |
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