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Deep Ocean
02:35:28 ♘Tosk
I trade wubs for AA, Honey xD

Mayhem
02:35:19 Pan's KNN Mess
I thought so, now I wanna see all three DDs with Ch. I wonder if DD with ChCh makes any mottling or visual differences
Honey Moon
02:34:37 Honey
Handsome boy, I love palominos.
I think my Wubs are dying ._. They hate me
New Road Stables
02:32:50 
But yes, I think you're right that it flies under the radar a lot. I was fascinated to learn, for example, that most of the American Cream Draft Horses are now understood to be mostly champagnes and not cream dilutes.
Breadcrumbs
02:32:18 
You're pretty
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New Road Stables
02:31:20 
I know the general "Horse Coat Color Panel" thru UCDavis tests for it along with the other dilutes.
Mayhem
02:26:59 Pan's KNN Mess
I feel Ch falls under the radar a lot unless you've already dealt with it or are knowledgeable about it. Do majority of gene testing automatically test for Ch when testing other dilutes?
New Road Stables
02:25:05 
Right! So I was incorrect; it is how it works in real life. (At least with cremellos - how neat that no one's bred the other DD Ch variants in the real world yet.)
Mayhem
02:23:08 Pan's KNN Mess
Ooh that's interesting! I guess because they already have such light skin, you wouldn't be able to see any mottling
New Road Stables
02:20:50 
Lol yes, something new to learn every day :)
New Road Stables
02:20:11 
Oh, that's very helpful. Thanks for sharing. Makes sense to me too now that I just looked up double cream dilutes on the International Champagne Horse Registry (ICHR). They know of only two DD champagnes, both cremellos, and both horses are visually indistinguishable from cremello.
Mayhem
02:17:11 Pan's KNN Mess
Ugh colour breeding stresses me out but genetics is so fascinating
Mayhem
02:15:55 Pan's KNN Mess
Oooh I found this note though:
Single dilute horses will show pearl genes if there is one present; Double Dilutes will hide pearl (and also Champagne) because their coat is already maximally diluted so the other dilution factor will not have an effect. They will not show up as having silver in their name either, but I believe smokey cremes, perlinos and brown cremes with silver have white tails in the game.
New Road Stables
02:14:50 
Yeah, nice find! I do wonder now about all the perlinos and such I've free ranged in the past :o
Mayhem
02:13:24 Pan's KNN Mess
This is the first double dilute with Ch I've come across so far so it threw me off about all my other possible Ch DD that I've missed. The game guide doesn't specify Ch on DD
New Road Stables
02:08:52 
Mayhem, that is very odd! It certainly doesn't in real life. I breed only champagnes and just looked through all my gene tested cream-champagne combos and cannot find any double creams, so I think you may be correct that that is how it works in-game.
Mayhem
02:00:32 Pan's KNN Mess
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Do double dilutes hide champagne?
Rose Trails Barn
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Kittens*
Rose Trails Barn
01:24:57 Echo/ Eco Friendly
These little are crushing my legs.
~Emerald Acres Stud~
01:24:20 |Swifty|
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Wow he's beautiful!

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Deep Ocean
02:35:28 ♘Tosk
I trade wubs for AA, Honey xD

Mayhem
02:35:19 Pan's KNN Mess
I thought so, now I wanna see all three DDs with Ch. I wonder if DD with ChCh makes any mottling or visual differences
Honey Moon
02:34:37 Honey
Handsome boy, I love palominos.
I think my Wubs are dying ._. They hate me
New Road Stables
02:32:50 
But yes, I think you're right that it flies under the radar a lot. I was fascinated to learn, for example, that most of the American Cream Draft Horses are now understood to be mostly champagnes and not cream dilutes.
Breadcrumbs
02:32:18 
You're pretty
-HEE Click-
New Road Stables
02:31:20 
I know the general "Horse Coat Color Panel" thru UCDavis tests for it along with the other dilutes.
Mayhem
02:26:59 Pan's KNN Mess
I feel Ch falls under the radar a lot unless you've already dealt with it or are knowledgeable about it. Do majority of gene testing automatically test for Ch when testing other dilutes?
New Road Stables
02:25:05 
Right! So I was incorrect; it is how it works in real life. (At least with cremellos - how neat that no one's bred the other DD Ch variants in the real world yet.)
Mayhem
02:23:08 Pan's KNN Mess
Ooh that's interesting! I guess because they already have such light skin, you wouldn't be able to see any mottling
New Road Stables
02:20:50 
Lol yes, something new to learn every day :)
New Road Stables
02:20:11 
Oh, that's very helpful. Thanks for sharing. Makes sense to me too now that I just looked up double cream dilutes on the International Champagne Horse Registry (ICHR). They know of only two DD champagnes, both cremellos, and both horses are visually indistinguishable from cremello.
Mayhem
02:17:11 Pan's KNN Mess
Ugh colour breeding stresses me out but genetics is so fascinating
Mayhem
02:15:55 Pan's KNN Mess
Oooh I found this note though:
Single dilute horses will show pearl genes if there is one present; Double Dilutes will hide pearl (and also Champagne) because their coat is already maximally diluted so the other dilution factor will not have an effect. They will not show up as having silver in their name either, but I believe smokey cremes, perlinos and brown cremes with silver have white tails in the game.
New Road Stables
02:14:50 
Yeah, nice find! I do wonder now about all the perlinos and such I've free ranged in the past :o
Mayhem
02:13:24 Pan's KNN Mess
This is the first double dilute with Ch I've come across so far so it threw me off about all my other possible Ch DD that I've missed. The game guide doesn't specify Ch on DD
New Road Stables
02:08:52 
Mayhem, that is very odd! It certainly doesn't in real life. I breed only champagnes and just looked through all my gene tested cream-champagne combos and cannot find any double creams, so I think you may be correct that that is how it works in-game.
Mayhem
02:00:32 Pan's KNN Mess
-HEE Click-

Do double dilutes hide champagne?
Rose Trails Barn
01:25:14 Echo/ Eco Friendly
Kittens*
Rose Trails Barn
01:24:57 Echo/ Eco Friendly
These little are crushing my legs.
~Emerald Acres Stud~
01:24:20 |Swifty|
@Dogwood:
Wow he's beautiful!

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Helppp- Genetics- Apricots, Palomino, etc July 10, 2025 03:44 PM


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Hi!! I'm trying to get more color into my lines but I literally know nothing about genetics. I'll post a bunch of questions here, please help if you have answers :)

  • what do parents need to produce apricot foals?
  • what do parents need to produce palomino foals?
  • this girl is brown creme. What does that mean and what can she produce?
  • what is chocolate palomino? is it genetically different from palomino or is it just a phenotype variation?
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Edited at July 10, 2025 03:44 PM by Florestä
Helppp- Genetics- Apricots, Palomino, etc July 10, 2025 03:59 PM


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So apricot is prlprl on a chestnut(red, ee) base.
Palomino is one creme gene on a redt base, so ee CcrC.
Creme an incomplete dominant, so it'll look different depending on whether a horse has one or two dominant genes. CcrC becomes palomino, buckskin, and smokey black on chestnut, bay, and black base coats, respectively.
CcrCcr becomes cremello, perlino, smokey creme on chestnut, bay, and black base coats, respectively.
Ata and AtAt are brown agouti, which turns bay into brown or seal brown. CcrC on seal brown becomes seal brown buckskin, and CcrCcr becomes brown creme, like your girl.
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Now, pearl is recessive and acts with creme. So Prlprl won't show up on its own, but paired with CcrC you get palomino pearl, buckskin pearl, and smokey black pearl, which look very similar to their PrlPrl CcrCcr counterparts mentioned above.
prlprl acts only on red coats and has no effect on black pigments. Technically, bay is black based but with the agouti modifier, which restricts the black pigment to the legs and ear tips, or black points.
prlprl on a red coat is apricot; if each parent has one prl - Prlprl - there's a 25% chance of getting prlprl, 25% chance of PrlPrl, and 50% chance of Prlprl. Factoring this in with possible E and/or Ccr genes they may have, it's possible to get an apricot from Ee aa Prlprl CcrC x Ee AA Prlprl CC, though the chances are slim.
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And lastly chocolate palomino is just a phenotype thing, like bay and chestnut variants :)
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I hope I've covered enough, but I'd be happy to answer any other questions you have!<3
Helppp- Genetics- Apricots, Palomino, etc July 15, 2025 03:15 AM


ZeroZero
 
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Hi,
In addition to Jesters fabby answer you can check out
Forum, Breeding Discussion, Genetics.
I use these posts all the time.
I have got a bit impatient with my attempts at breeding apricots and got some cream genes mixed in which mask the ee prlprl. Still I think I might get an EEE apricot within the next two months.
The side effects of breeding for apricot are very pretty indeed, which helps!
Best of luck.

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