Horse's Paradise
01:00:58 
well I gtg now, I think I'll play later for a little while but have a great day everyone!
Field of Reeds
12:41:09 
it's affected my normal everyday life too and my capacity to do anything normal even. Even down to holding a pencil because of the amoubt of dexterity loss I've had.

So if you're doing anything with horses please make sure you can get it treated. <3

For something serious it's not a amtter of if, it's a matter of when
The Old Gods
12:41:03 Void Malign
It wasn't until my late 20s that I actually had a lead on a diagnosis when an orthopedic surgeon went "mmm'yeah. You're hypermobile."

I thought it was normal lel
Morning Glory Farms
12:40:06 Terici/Dino/Trish
farrier work in general is hard on the body and expensive to learn for a trade that realistically you cant do for as long as can be and you really dont make much doing it, i spend almost as much in millage and tools ect as i make in a year. if it hadnt been for a need to learn to do our horses when i was younger i would have gone a different route for work.
~Savy~
12:39:24 Sav
The process of moving to another country, getting citizenship, and getting healthcare is probably easier than dealing with insurance lmao
The Old Gods
12:39:23 Void Malign
Eh, my issue was less insurance and more having health issues that's mostly a "well, I'm tired and I hurt" which is about as vague as you can get.
Field of Reeds
12:39:11 
I'm mentioning this because I've been trying to get a pinched nerve in my neck fixed at some point. but it's severely impacted my life for the past 10 years and not in a good way. I lost my 20s to the miserable pain
Revel Ranch
12:38:49 Hummer
Horseback riding is the one form of exercise I look forward to. Everything else is meh and miserable
THUNDRY
12:37:41 M M
Ah. I live in the UK so I didn't think about insurance. Sorry for my ignorance
Field of Reeds
12:36:33 
I'm so broken after years of riding crazy horses and barn work etc.... so is the bf and his dad who are generational farriers. His dad is in his 60s though so he's made it a long while before being broken. Not everyone makes it that long.

Biggest struggle for everyone I know including myself personally is getting adequate healthare which you definitely want. Most employers don't offer and most equstrian jobs don't pay enough
Revel Ranch
12:36:30 Hummer
I honestly was healthier riding horses than I am right now not
Arvalon Studs
12:36:18 Tosk's KNN
-Click-

From today on,she identifies as a cat.
~Savy~
12:35:35 Sav
I would take being a kid again and being oblivious to the fact I would have two hip surgeries by 21 any day
The Old Gods
12:35:27 Void Malign
Not everyone has health issues that can be fixed lmfao
Revel Ranch
12:35:09 Hummer
@MM, doctors are useless because they say they canÂ’t help me
Dark Sky Equine
12:34:55 //Dark//Sky//
shi
I agree 100%
Wolf Dancer
12:34:35 Wolf Burger (Leg)
Shi
so true xD
Shiecka
12:34:03 Shi
I think anyone whoÂ’s ridden/dealt with horses consistently for a number of years has a messed up body 💀 it is just part of the sport at this point
THUNDRY
12:34:01 M M
See a doctor?
Morning Glory Farms
12:33:59 Terici/Dino/Trish
then definitely go another route :) farrier work is hard work with zero thanks the clients are 90% of the time awful to work with i have like 5% of my clients that i actually enjoy
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Genetics Game Guide November 8, 2017 04:12 PM

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<div align="center">So, lately I've been reading a lot of questions about the genetics game and how it works, so I decided to create a guide on how I play the genetics game, and almost always getting a perfect score.

This guide will show you, through images the process I take to achieve this.

Edited at November 8, 2017 05:58 PM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 8, 2017 05:59 PM

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First and foremost, the most important thing is that we should know each gene and their alleles:

Extension: Alleles; E dominant, and e recessive; Possibleoutcomes; EE, ee and Ee

Agouti: Alleles; A dominant, At and a recessive; Possible outcomes; AA, aa, AtAt, Aa, AAt, and Ata, A is dominant over At and a, At is dominant over a, alleles order in dominance.

Crème: Alleles; Ccr dominant, and C recessive; Possible outcomes; CcrCcr, CC and CcrC

Roan: Alleles; Rn dominant, and rn recessive; Possible outcomes; RnRn, rnrn and Rnrn

Dun: Alleles; D dominant, and d recessive; Possible outcomes; DD, dd and Dd

Pearl: Alleles; Prl dominant, and prl recessive; Possible outcomes; PrlPrl, prlprl and Prlprl

Silver: Alleles; Z dominant, and z recessive; Possible outcomes; ZZ, zz and Zz

Champagne: Alleles; Ch dominant, and ch recessive; Possible outcomes; ChCh, chch and Chch

Grey: Alleles; G dominant, and g recessive; Possible outcomes; GG, gg and Gg

White: Alleles; W dominant, and w recessive; Possible outcomes; WW, ww and Ww

Tobiano: Alleles; To dominant, and to recessive; Possible outcomes; ToTo, toto and Toto

Splash White: Alleles; Spl dominant, and spl recessive; Possible outcomes; SplSpl, splspl and Splspl

Sabino: Alleles; Sb dominant, and sb recessive; Possible outcomes; SbSb, sbsb and Sbsb

Rabicano: Alleles; Rb dominant, and rb recessive; Possible outcomes; RbRb, rbrb and Rbrb

Frame: Alleles; O dominant, and o recessive; Possible outcomes; OO, oo and Oo

Leopard Complex: Alleles; Lp dominant, and lp recessive; Possible outcomes; LpLp, lplp and Lplp

PATN-1: Alleles; PATN-1 dominant, and patn-1 recessive; Possible outcomes; PATN-1PATN-1, patn-1patn-1 and PATN-1patn-1

PATN-2: Alleles; PATN-2 dominant, and patn-2 recessive; Possible outcomes; PATN-2PATN-2, patn-2patn-2 and PATN-2patn-2

Things to note:

Brindle is not a gene, including it will count as an incorrect answer.

Alleles order in dominance, so the dominant allele will always come first when writing the gene, in the case of Agouti with 3 possible alleles, A will always come before either At and a, and At will always come before a.

Watch your capitalization, one wrong case and that entire line is incorrect

Homozygous is the term used for when both genes are the same, Homozygous Dominant is where both alleles are the Dominant allele such as EE, Homozygous recessive is where both alleles are the recessive allele such as ee, Heterozygous is where one allele is the dominant and one is the recessive such as Ee

Edited at November 8, 2017 10:00 PM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 8, 2017 09:25 PM

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Now that is over and done with,we can begin the process of solving this game

First, we will need two horses to play the game with, here is two that I got the day of making this guide:

https://s1.postimg.org/8cehnl6wlb/Parents.jpg
these two horses have 54 possible genetic combinations

Next we will need to open up a text document, either word or notepad or another writing software will work, itÂ’s just a lot easier then using the HEE text box.Here is my usual setup:
https://s1.postimg.org/70u3mbvxcv/Snip.jpg

Okay so, we have our set up ready, time to copy and paste the first example line into the document, this will be our base:
https://s1.postimg.org/3obdryp7y7/Capture.jpghttps://s1.postimg.org/1syszcexi7/Capture_2.jpg


Go through and looking off the genes, make the corrections for at least 1 possibility of each gene, for one line of text, in this case this:

EE,AA,CcrCcr,rnrn,dd,PrlPrl,zz,Chch,gg,ww,toto,splspl,SbSb,RbRb,oo,lplp,PATN-1patn-1,PATN-2patn-2

Should be:

EE,aa,CcrCcr,rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,toto,splspl,sbsb,rbrb,oo,lplp,patn-1patn-1,patn-2patn-2

https://s1.postimg.org/4otrbngfe7/Parents_1.jpg
Looking at this, the first gene has variables, I always do them in order. In this case we have heterozygous Ee on both parents, so the possibilities are EE, ee,and Ee so we put these changes into our line.

https://s1.postimg.org/6wdb9ddbgv/image.jpg
there we have the 3 possibilities for the first gene along with a set combination of the rest, now we move on to the second gene

https://s1.postimg.org/41tkoaqcb3/Parents_2.jpg
In this case gene two has no variables, so we do not change anything.

The same thing happens with genes 3-15, where in this situation they have no variables,so we keep those the same.

https://s1.postimg.org/86p60er5jz/Parents_15.jpg
now we have Leopard Complex, which much like the first gene, both parents are heterozygous Lplp, so the possibilities are LpLp, lplp, and Lplp,

So, copy and paste the possibilities from the first gene and paste it a space down to keep it separated for now for an easier view of which lines you need to change.

https://s1.postimg.org/96lul782gf/image.jpg
now in this case as this gene has 2 other possibilities from the one we had set in the original we need to have another set of the 3 first variables,

https://s1.postimg.org/3kwvliahlr/image.jpg
now go through and in the first paste,change the leopard complex gene to the second possible combination, and the second paste as the third

https://s1.postimg.org/4oyv2wyexr/image.jpg
you can now get rid of the spaces between these, as these are now the set you will use for the next gene

https://s1.postimg.org/3f8paruve7/image.jpg
Our next gene is PATN-1, once again in this case we have double heterozygous, so we need to copy and paste twice, so we have sections for each of our possible outcomes PATN-1PATN-1, patn-1patn-1and PATN-1patn-1

https://s1.postimg.org/7odfcxjcbj/image.jpg
repeat; in the first paste,change the PATN-1 gene to the second possible combination, and the second paste as the third

https://s1.postimg.org/80tc2rb88f/image.jpg
you can now get rid of the spaces between these, as these are now the set you will use for the next gene

https://s1.postimg.org/8fcj7slr1r/image.jpg
our next gene is PATN-2, in this case one parent is heterozygous but the other one is homozygous recessive, so our possible outcomes are patn-2patn-2 and PATN-2patn-2, as we have patn-2patn-2 in our original we only need to paste once and change it to PATN-2patn-2.

https://s1.postimg.org/4195n86gjj/image.jpg
https://s1.postimg.org/3u5xrskqjj/image.jpg

now get rid of the spacing

https://s1.postimg.org/9ue3wiu4i7/image.jpg

we are now done, is some cases you will have a lot more pasting, sometimes less, you just need to look at the alleles and the variables

a good way to check that you are most likely correct is your word document should say the number of words, this number should be the same as the number of possible combinations you saw at the beginning

https://s1.postimg.org/548uy422pb/image.jpg

REMEMBER:
watch your casing

take your time

double heterozygous genes will always have 3 possible combinations, so you must double paste

homozygous to heterozygous will always have 2 possible combinations, so you must paste once

double homozygous will always have 1 possible combination, so you will not paste and make sure you have this combination in your base

once you have done all of this, you can copy and past your lines from your word document to the HEE text box.

THINGS TO BE CAREFUL OF WHEN PASTING:

pasting will leave an extra blank line, this will be taken as a guess, while it wont harm your score if you got everything right it will count as an incorrect answer, the simple fix is hitting backspace once, but make sure not to accidentally delete the 2 from the previous line.

If pasting 100 lines or over if you hit backspace it will delete up to the 100th line, including the2 (or sometimes more) of the 100th line, be sure to catch and correct this.

You should now be set to successfully play HEEÂ’s genetics game!


If you have any questions, or believe I forgot something, donÂ’t be afraid to comment and I will try to respond as quickly as possible.

Edited at November 8, 2017 10:02 PM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 9, 2017 08:03 AM


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Only thing I see is the White. Not sure how genetics practice handles LWO genetic combinations.

I.E. would WW be a viable answer, or would you delete it as a non viable one?
Genetics Game Guide November 9, 2017 08:06 AM

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Another good thing to note that your number of lines should do the following when going through the line

If the Gene has 1 possibility then your amount of lines should not change, this possibility should be in your base line.

If the Gene has 2 possibilities then your amount of lines should double.

If the Gene has 3 possibilities then your amount of lines should triple.

In the case of Agouti having 4 possibilities then your amount of line should quadruple.

Edited at November 9, 2017 10:21 AM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 9, 2017 08:09 AM

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Llama Queen said:
Only thing I see is the White. Not sure how genetics practice handles LWO genetic combinations.

I.E. would WW be a viable answer, or would you delete it as a non viable one?


This game is more about possible combinations not viable ones, while I've never had this case I believe you would include it.

The easiest way to check is to include the non viable options, if your final amount of lines is greater then the amount they give you try deleting the nonviable ones, if your number then matches the number they give you then you are not supposed to include it.


Edited at November 9, 2017 08:14 AM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 9, 2017 10:19 AM

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Agouti is your black sheep in the case of genes because of the fact that it has 3 possible alleles A, At and a. A is the most dominant, At is dominant over a, and a is recessive.

Meaning:
AA, AtAt, aa, Aa, AAt, and Ata are the possible outcomes.

so depending on the parents you could end up with 1 outcome, 2 outcomes, 3 outcomes or even 4.

This is the only gene where you can get a double heterozygous and would require a triple paste resulting in quadrupling your prior line number.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Today I got:

Aa on my Sire and Ata on my Dam.

The Sire can throw either his A or a,and the Dam can throw either her At or a,

https://s1.postimg.org/1y65c8nt3j/Picture.jpg

So our 4 outcomes in this case are AAt, Aa, Ata, and aa.

I believe I will be making a youtube video tonight, recording my process so it is easier to understand and study, compared to me jumping around in pictures. I will be going over everything I have said so far in this guide, plus some new stuff.
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<div style="text-align: center;">This video will be using 2 more diverse parents as instead of only have 54 possible outcomes like in here, they have 576 possible genetic outcomes.

Edited at November 9, 2017 10:26 AM by Silver Forest
Genetics Game Guide November 10, 2017 08:26 PM

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<div align="center">And FINALLY! here we go, I full video guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gVk_YlwvXg
Genetics Game Guide March 4, 2018 07:57 PM

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You are a god. Thank you so much <3
Genetics Game Guide September 29, 2018 08:51 PM

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Hopefully this is still active.

The first time I did the game I didn't do any copy/pasting, I just did the guesses into the game and did pretty well. The last two days I've done a copy paste from a text file and it's come back as 100% wrong.

If I guess more then 100 just in case some are wrong do they all come back as wrong?

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