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Still got another week or two until my horses start getting show ready.
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I never did till I bought him -HEE Click-
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Dawns: I don't even look at my sad news anymore - they are mostly geldings
Dawns~Souls
05:08:11 
Vs vermithor popping with that 3/3 w6 defiantly taking his granddad genes -HEE Click-
Dawns~Souls
04:57:45 
I feel so bad everytime I see sad news I am praying it ain't my favourite horse
Sagruesal
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-HEE Click- and filly is training better than all my colts
Sagruesal
04:32:16 Ru
-HEE Click- okay, this guy is 3/3 w6, nice.
Amethyst Ranch
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I'll take it lol XD
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Warm hearted
04:00:07 Brit
And how is that done
Dark Shadows Estate
03:57:32 Bazz
Brit; Single Discipline :)
Warm hearted
03:54:39 Brit
What's SD a
Dark Shadows Estate
03:53:26 Bazz
I have like 3/4 different SD breeding programs going at the moment!
Warm hearted
03:51:58 Brit
Ro*
Warm hearted
03:51:46 Brit
How much longer before fo
Sagruesal
03:49:41 Ru
Bazz
I'm glad SD is getting more popular.
Dark Shadows Estate
03:30:17 Bazz
Ru
I'm actually spending this coming RO focusing mostly on my SD stock!

Only have 1 WWW girl I plan on breeding
Sagruesal
03:06:45 Ru
Bazz
I do have some for WB. RID have been falling for some time already, I'll cull most E mares this RO and invest more into WB.
Dark Shadows Estate
03:02:33 Bazz
Ru, I have no hopes up for any of my SD horses!
Sagruesal
02:59:47 Ru
After all, HE can disappoint
Sagruesal
02:59:36 Ru
There's a couple foals I'm curious about, but better not get my hopes high

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Moonless Shore
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Still got another week or two until my horses start getting show ready.
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I never did till I bought him -HEE Click-
Dark Shadows Estate
05:10:09 Bazz
Dawns: I don't even look at my sad news anymore - they are mostly geldings
Dawns~Souls
05:08:11 
Vs vermithor popping with that 3/3 w6 defiantly taking his granddad genes -HEE Click-
Dawns~Souls
04:57:45 
I feel so bad everytime I see sad news I am praying it ain't my favourite horse
Sagruesal
04:34:29 Ru
-HEE Click- and filly is training better than all my colts
Sagruesal
04:32:16 Ru
-HEE Click- okay, this guy is 3/3 w6, nice.
Amethyst Ranch
04:23:56 Echo <3
I'll take it lol XD
-HEE Click-
Warm hearted
04:00:07 Brit
And how is that done
Dark Shadows Estate
03:57:32 Bazz
Brit; Single Discipline :)
Warm hearted
03:54:39 Brit
What's SD a
Dark Shadows Estate
03:53:26 Bazz
I have like 3/4 different SD breeding programs going at the moment!
Warm hearted
03:51:58 Brit
Ro*
Warm hearted
03:51:46 Brit
How much longer before fo
Sagruesal
03:49:41 Ru
Bazz
I'm glad SD is getting more popular.
Dark Shadows Estate
03:30:17 Bazz
Ru
I'm actually spending this coming RO focusing mostly on my SD stock!

Only have 1 WWW girl I plan on breeding
Sagruesal
03:06:45 Ru
Bazz
I do have some for WB. RID have been falling for some time already, I'll cull most E mares this RO and invest more into WB.
Dark Shadows Estate
03:02:33 Bazz
Ru, I have no hopes up for any of my SD horses!
Sagruesal
02:59:47 Ru
After all, HE can disappoint
Sagruesal
02:59:36 Ru
There's a couple foals I'm curious about, but better not get my hopes high

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Velvet Island Dragons Breeder's Handbook March 24, 2025 06:46 PM


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This thread is complementary to my adopt shop, Velvet Island Dragons! It explains the breeding system and documents the genetic makeup of dragons bred so far. I'd like to keep this thread nice and neat, so if you have any questions or requests, please direct them to the adopt shop thread or PM them :)
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VID genetics roughly mimic those in real life (and HEE!), so if you already understand how it works you can skip this first post <3
Certain traits such as base colour and additional colours will simply be some combination of the parent's traits. Other traits are random mutations which do not depend on genetics. Other than that, I will explain genetics very poorly...
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Markings are based on a genetics system! Each marking is encoded by a gene (eg. gradient). A gene is made up of two alleles (eg. Gdgd) - when written, the dominant allele is uppercase (eg. Gd), and the recessive allele is lowercase (eg. gd).
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A VID with two of the same allele for a trait is homozygous, either dominant (eg. GdGd) or recessive (gdgd). A VID with two different alleles for a trait is heterozygous (eg. Gdgd). Each parent will randomly pass along one of their two alleles for each and every gene. For homozygotes, it will always be the same allele (they have two copies of the same), but for heterozygotes it will be a 50% chance at passing the dominant or recessive allele.
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The combination of alleles is called the genotype, such as GdGd, Gdgd, or gdgd. The way the genotype actually looks on the VID is called the phenotype, such as "gradient" or "not gradient".
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Phenotype can be based on either the dominant allele, needing at least one copy of the uppercase to present itself (eg. GdGd or Gdgd), or the recessive allele, needing both copies of the lowercase to be visible (eg. mbmb). For recessive alleles, individuals with only one copy of the lowercase are carriers - they don't display the trait themselves, but can pass it along to their offspring (eg. Mbmb).
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For simplicity, only genes of interest will show up in a VID's genetic report, but they do all have the whole genome.
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"Autosomal" for our purposes simply means both males and females can have it. I don't plan on adding sex-linked traits, so you can ignore this term.
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Let's run through the probabilities when breeding for a dominant trait, such as gradient (Gd):
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[Parent x Parent genotypes: Offspring genotype (offspring phenotype)]
GdGd x GdGd: 100% GdGd (100% gradient)
GdGd x Gdgd: 50% GdGd, 50% Gdgd (100% gradient)
GdGd x gdgd: 100% Gdgd (100% gradient)
Gdgd x Gdgd: 25% GdGd, 50% Gdgd, 25% gdgd (75% gradient, 25% not)
Gdgd x gdgd: 50% Gdgd, 50% gdgd (50% gradient, 50% not)
gdgd x gdgd: 100% gdgd (100% not)
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The genotypic probabilities for recessive traits are exactly the same, but the probabilities of the trait being visible (aka, the phenotype) are different. Let's run through this again with a recessive trait, like marble (mb):
MbMb x MbMb: 100% MbMb (100% not)
MbMb x Mbmb: 50% MbMb, 50% Mbmb (100% not)
MbMb x mbmb: 100% Mbmb (100% not)
Mbmb x Mbmb: 25% MbMb, 50% Mbmb, 25% mbmb (75% not, 25% marble)
Mbmb x mbmb: 50% Mbmb, 50% mbmb (50% not, 50% marble)
mbmb x mbmb: 100% mbmb (100% marble)
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As you can see, breeding for recessive traits is a bit tougher. I will include on their genetic report whether or not a VID is a carrier, so that should help you strategize if this is your goal.
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In many cases, homozygous dominant traits can present as a more complex or extreme marking, but this isn't guaranteed. There is also no limit to how many different types of markings a VID may have, so have fun!

Edited at March 27, 2025 06:12 PM by Bignus Bognus
Velvet Island Dragons Breeder's Handbook March 24, 2025 06:47 PM


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Type - 7 types available (A through G). Offspring will have a 50% chance of being either of the parents' types.

Base colour - All shades. Genetics complex - some combination of parents’. Will be communicated as “Base: colour”. Markings may be any shade of the base colour in addition to Col.

Col - “Colour”; Determines how many colours a VID may have beyond its base coat colour. Shades of the base coat colour do not require a Col gene, nor do markings resulting from some random mutations. Not all Cols encoded must be used. Genetics are complex - encoded colours will be communicated as “Col: colour1, colour2, etc” or “col” if none.

mb - “Marble”; Autosomal recessive. Causes marbling of base coat with all available Cols. Covers Grd, Rn, and exhausts Cols (markings will be base colour except Etc).

Gd - “Gradient”; Autosomal dominant. Colour gradient originating from extremities. GdGd may present as a multicoloured gradient.

Rn - “Roan”; Autosomal dominant. Colour gradient originating from core. RnRn may present as a multicoloured gradient.

Spl - “Splash”; Autosomal dominant. Markings covering face, legs, occasionally extending up the body.

Sb - “Sabino”; Autosomal dominant. Irregular markings on the face and legs, occasionally on the body.

Rb - “Rabicano”; Autosomal dominant. Vertical markings on the flank, occasionally on the tail, wings, horns, and/or fins.

Str - “Stripes”; Autosomal dominant. Presents as stripes of variable shape and size. Although highly variable, the particular shape and size of stripes seem to be passed on from parents. StrStr may present as bands.

Sp - “Spots”; Autosomal dominant. Presents either as spots, splotches or patches of variable shape and size. Although highly variable, the particular shape and size of spots seem to be passed on from parents. SpSp may present as multicoloured and/or more complex markings.

Tx - “Tuxedo”; Autosomal dominant. A continuous marking on the chest and underbelly.

J - "Jacket"; Autosomal dominant. A continuous marking covering the back.

Etc - “Etch”; Autosomal dominant. Highly variable but typically thin small markings. If no Col available, may still be black or white. EtcEtc may present either as larger or more intricate markings.

Pangere - Random mutation, lightening of the underbelly.

Birdcatcher - Random mutation, small white spots.

Sooty - Random mutation, darkening of the back.

Very small markings are not necessarily due to a genetic pattern, but are limited by Col genes.

Coloured eyes appear commonly on VIDs with light base coats or light markings covering the eyes, rarely in other cases.


Edited at March 27, 2025 05:56 PM by Bignus Bognus
Velvet Island Dragons Breeder's Handbook March 24, 2025 06:49 PM


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Genetic Reports (Publicly Available for Breeding)
Kio (M)
Type: F
Base: Ochre
Col: Red
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Spots: Spsp
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Sachi (F)
Type: E
Base: Brown
Col: White
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Gradient: Gdgd
Roan: Rnrn
Sabino: SbSb
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Mill (M)
Type: G
Base: Rust
Col: Black, beige
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Stripes: StrStr
+Pangere
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Dandy (F)
Type: C
Base: Yellow
Col: White
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Splash: SplSpl
Spots: Spsp
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Lyla (F)
Type: D
Base: Lavender
Col: Cream, purple
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Gradient: Gdgd
Rabicano: RbRb
Tuxedo: Txtx
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Qui (M)
Type: A
Base: Mint
Col: Orange, teal
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Marble: mbmb
Etch: Etcetc
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Tune (M)
Type: B
Base: Sapphire
Col: Grey
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Gradient: Gdgd
Tuxedo: Txtx
+Birdcatcher

Edited at March 26, 2025 12:01 PM by Bignus Bognus
Velvet Island Dragons Breeder's Handbook March 24, 2025 06:50 PM


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Genetic Reports (Not Publicly Available for Breeding)
Kyro (M)
Owned by Swirly's stables
Type: C
Base: Turquoise
Col: Mint, blue
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Gradient: Gdgd
Spots: Spsp
Etch: Etcetc
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Pearl (F)
Owned by Nocturnal Creatures
Type: F
Base: Lavender
Col: Light blue, pink, white
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Marble: mbmb
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Rose Quartz (F)
Owned by Nocturnal Creatures
Type: E
Base: Cream
Col: Dusty pink
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Spots: Spsp
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Saint (M)
Owned by Nocturnal Creatures
Type: C
Base: Brown
Col: Black, cream
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Gradient: Gdgd
Splash: SplSpl
Jacket: Jj
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Cosmo (M)
Owned by Golden Crest
Type: B
Base: Cobalt
Col: Black
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Roan: Rnrn
Splash: Splspl
Etch: Etcetc
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Darcy (F)
Owned by Ponies heaven
Type: F
Base: Black
Col: Light grey, cream
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Roan: Rnrn
Rabicano: Rbrb
Etch: Etcetc

Edited at March 30, 2025 12:59 PM by Bignus Bognus

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