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I'd recomend using this as a dry food :) Edited at January 25, 2023 08:10 PM by Wild Winnie Equine |
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My cats love wet food, they tend to prefer it, so we try to feed them more wet food when we can. Especially because they eat less when they eat wet food, this is because the water in wet food means they can be more full with less calories. Or something like that. We give them a scoop of dry food in the mornings and half a can of wet food each in the evening. I try to feed them a bit at lunch because they're always hungry but they're more than a healthy weight lol. |
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cats have a really tiny stomace and short apendix. it is important to say that cats that " starve" have a higher risk to get fatty liver and other health isues. ingreiens is everything. from that you can read if the protein are from animals or veggies or grain and so on... on a personal level i would NEVER buy a food that are under 40 percent i protein (mainly from animals) and 20 percent fat, just for the fact that the cat dont need a lot of food the be full filled in a day. there is no ingredient list to find on the that page... but when they write it like that it sound really good maybee i can google it somewhere.
HMH Reality Check said:
The Old Gods said:
Maleficent Acres said:
Ingredients in food don't matter. Animals need nutrients, not ingredients. Has your cat seen the vet recently to rule out any disease processes that would explain his dificulty losing weight?
This is incorrect. Ingredients do matter. Corn/grain ingredients don't stick on the stomach, prompting the animal to eat more, which stacks on the calories. That ignores the potential for allergies that certain ingredients can cause. While a vet visit wouldn't hurt, I'd split the raw food into two meals and stop the overnight dryfood.
He gets fed four times a day, and if we stop the dry food overnight he pukes, we'd prefer no dry food
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HMH Reality Check said:
The Old Gods said:
Maleficent Acres said:
Ingredients in food don't matter. Animals need nutrients, not ingredients. Has your cat seen the vet recently to rule out any disease processes that would explain his dificulty losing weight?
This is incorrect. Ingredients do matter. Corn/grain ingredients don't stick on the stomach, prompting the animal to eat more, which stacks on the calories. That ignores the potential for allergies that certain ingredients can cause. While a vet visit wouldn't hurt, I'd split the raw food into two meals and stop the overnight dryfood.
He gets fed four times a day, and if we stop the dry food overnight he pukes, we'd prefer no dry food
You should feed him 2 times a day, that's probably 1 of the reasons he's overweight^^' |
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HMH Reality Check said:
The Old Gods said:
Maleficent Acres said:
Ingredients in food don't matter. Animals need nutrients, not ingredients. Has your cat seen the vet recently to rule out any disease processes that would explain his dificulty losing weight?
This is incorrect. Ingredients do matter. Corn/grain ingredients don't stick on the stomach, prompting the animal to eat more, which stacks on the calories. That ignores the potential for allergies that certain ingredients can cause. While a vet visit wouldn't hurt, I'd split the raw food into two meals and stop the overnight dryfood.
He gets fed four times a day, and if we stop the dry food overnight he pukes, we'd prefer no dry food
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I've researched plenty about cat nutrition before for my own two cats, and studied some animal nutrition at uni. I'm by no means an expert, but here's my two cents: First, I highly recommend a vet visit. Not just due to the weight issue, but I'm concerned about the puking when taken off dry food as well. It would be good to have him checked for diabetes also, as well as having his legs looked at, especially if he looks like he might be in pain. Secondly, cats are obligate carnivores, which means they get their nutrients from meat. No "greens" needed whatsoever. They get most of the moisture they need from the meat also. It can be difficult to find the type of feed that is both healthy for your cat and he likes eating it too. Especially because there are much less regulations in place for animal feed ingredient lists than there are for human foods. When a cat food has "chicken" listed as ingredient, it can mean a wide range of meat types and processing the meat goes through before it goes into the food. Both foods you linked have vegetables/plant based stuff in them, despite being grain-free (which is already much better than can be said about most commercial cat feed). The paté saounds great in title, but it has "tapioca starch" which is just as bad as grains would be. Cats have a hard time digesting starch and regulating blood sugar levels when exposed to too much carbohydrates, so anything starchy should be avoided. Another concern is the use of eggs, which some cats may be allergic to as well. In nature cats rarely eat eggs. Despite this all, it's very difficult to find the balance between what's available/doable to you and what's good for your cat. A brand that I found to be great (in terms of ingredients, price and my picky cats' palates) is called "Wild Freedom". I'm not sure if it's available in your country (I'm writing from EU), but something similar may help. It has high meat content (90%+) and the canned version has plenty of moisture too. It is generally recommended to abstain from dry food as much as possible and feed high moisture content wet food. I realize that not everyone can do this, and my own cats also had kibbles in their diet. Make sure to always have clean water accessible. Another way to losing weight, if your cat doesn't like moving around too much, is puzzle feeders. They help your cat get some exercise while also making sure it doesn't just gobble up the food too fast. You can try if your cat liked these with a puzzle "treater", where the reward from the puzzle is a treat rather than food. This may help getting him interested in these puzzles in the first place, and can then gradually transition into the feeders. It could also be important to mention that cats are hunters. All of them, even the ones that don't act like it. Before eating they naturally would have to hunt down their prey. It might have some good effect to play with the "fishing rod" or some other interactive toy every time before feeding. Let him catch his prey, then eat it. It doesn't have to be a lot of playtime, just enough to keep his hunting instincts stimulated. With all this being said, please be careful about modifications to your cat's diet and habits. It is very important to introduce new foods gradually, because changing the diet instantly can wreak havoc in the digestive system. Be slow about the playtime as well. Play just enough for him to be engaged, and stop when you feel his attention drop. If it becomes a regular thing, he will get more and more involved and likely - thanks to the exercise and better feeding habits - start losing weight. Sorry it became a little too long, but I could go on and on about this topic for ages xD |
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No, thank you that's great! I didn't put in all the details because I wasn't sure how much attention this would get! We feed him small amounts four times a day, he still gets less than what's recommended for his body weight. He's seen a couple vets semi recently and no one has said anything, he is at risk for being diabetic which is why he are trying to lower his weight. But he just pukes up spit or water if he goes to long without eating, which is why he gets feed four times a day and gets a tiny bit of dry food overnight. He was a former barn cat but he got him as a small kitten so he never really experienced the life. We think he has a little inbreeding and just general bad confirmation. His feet point a little bit which adds to his uncomfort. He gets a green mussel supplement to help as well as cosequin joint treats. He hates the feed toys and just chooses not to eat, we have tried so many over the years. Freshpet is the food he's done the best on, rarely pukes and seems happiest |
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The weight keeping and being generally uninterested in toys might also be a behavioral issue. There is just so much that can be going on in a cat's mind that it's sometimes hard to pinpoint the root cause of a problem. What worked for my cats (which might not work for you) was having kibbles always available and feeding wet food once a day, in the evening/night. They generally ate a bowl of kibbles each every one or two days in addition to the wet food. Some people say it's not good to let the cats "graze" (having food always available), some say it's good because cats often hide their prey and go back to it throughout the day. If he has issues with stomach acid it might be a good solution to just let him have food whenever. But again, this depends on the cat too, some cats ravage their food when fed like this, others know how much they want to eat and don't overdo it. But this is all down to experimenting and observing the reactions. Does he like to be in high/warm places? Maybe a heated bed on top of a cat tree would be encouraging to do jumps/climbs. That too would have to be gradually moved higher and higher, starting on the ground. |
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He has a bed he likes to sleep in, and loves to snuggle on the couch, but he just to ouchy for anything higher |
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Feed him less, half a cup of kibble and ditch the wet food. |
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