The Old Gods
03:02:09 Void Malign
Oh, it's definitely not nicer, depending on the bridle. Mechanical hackamores can absolutely break a horse's nose bones
Lucky Ranch
03:01:22 luhckeigh
me personally I use a rusty bike chain as a bit but to each their own
Azalea Equine
03:01:02 Azie | DM's SA
JP
I had one that was the same way. My two I have right now don't mind it though.
FirstLightFarms
03:00:59 puck
JP, yep. so many people assume bitless is nicer but the leverage can make it just as nasty as any bit. totally depends on the bridle you use, and like you said, some horses don't like that pressure
Nightfall Meadow
03:00:16 Luna | Night
Why are you and your tack so cute! 😍
-HEE Click-
JP Show Stables
03:00:13 
double jointed snaffle ** got ahead of myself.
JP Show Stables
02:59:38 
Mine would hate being bitless. Wasn't a fan of face/nose pressure. Wasn't even a fan of the 2-3 times I tried to ride around in a leather halter. Rope halters and bitless bridles would have been horrible for him. Simple double joined bridle and a variety of ergonomic, loose fit bridles for us.
The Old Gods
02:58:44 Void Malign
It really just depends on what Oklahoma likes. If she doesn't like the bitless bridle, then I'll have to do research into what type of bit(s) she might have been shown in.
Azalea Equine
02:58:14 Azie | DM's SA
My arab shows in a fishback snaffle for showing which she seems to like, it's a newer one my trainer and I are testing on her.
ghost light stables
02:58:11 moldy bread / ghost
puck

I used to ride in a rubber snaffle but stopped when my horse chewed the rubber off and choked
ArcticLights
02:57:59 Ceci / (Call me) AL
If the horses doesnt match, the foal rating is good but the training bad then it might be a RF match and not worth repeating
ArcticLights
02:57:02 Ceci / (Call me) AL
No downside if horses match and the foal is good
Azalea Equine
02:56:53 Azie | DM's SA
Both of mine are ridden bit less for leisure rides, they both ride in a Ken Mcnabb lifter when training, my reiner also rides in a Bob Avila double ring snaffle when training, and she shows in a correction bit but don't remember which one.
NightClan
02:55:50 
Is there any downside to repeating a match? I've heard both ways lol
Rhythmic Stables
02:55:14 Eliot They/Them
Luna
I promise I am not arguing with you. You would know if I was lol
Painted Perfection
02:55:09 Luna The Gene Queen
Talk later everyone lol
Painted Perfection
02:54:57 Luna The Gene Queen
Okay, I'm done with chat lol. This is stupid
Painted Perfection
02:54:34 Luna The Gene Queen
Thank you Rain...
The Old Gods
02:54:20 Void Malign
Rocky actually needs bitless because of his mouth design. I wanna see if Oklahoma will go bitless, but it's hard to say with her. Denali can keep her bit since she can't ever make up her mind on if something's scary or not
Rhythmic Stables
02:53:40 Eliot They/Them
Serenity
I could see the pattern clearly.. But to each their own
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Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 08:29 AM

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So, I have a 20 yr old Arabian gelding. He is in perfect health and acts like he's 8. He has no lameness, he eats just fine, has good weight. Just a bit of an old man sway back. He has a hay belly but I think that's good for an older horse, lol. He doesn't jump, as he had an accidental before I bought him. He has been my dressage guy for 8 years, over that time, I've convinced him that blue plastic barrels are safe and he will jump if allowed to sniff them first. But, he jumps really fast and really flat, no matter what I do. My mom suggested Kissing Spine because he never liked to round out, in Dressage either and refused to over jumps. I don't jump him any higher that 2' and only occasionally. I always ride with a gel pad. I personally think it's attitude and old man syndrome. I am always running my fingers down each side of his spine, with pressure and he never even blinks. I'm not super worried, but wanted another's opinion.

Edited at August 15, 2020 08:30 AM by HMH Reality Check
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 09:29 AM

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Get a vets opinion. People on a horse game cant give you appropriate answers. It could be a multitude of things including but not limited to dental work, poor saddle fit, age, muscle atrophy etc etc.
Call your vet.
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 09:44 AM

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Cappuccino said:
Get a vets opinion. People on a horse game cant give you appropriate answers. It could be a multitude of things including but not limited to dental work, poor saddle fit, age, muscle atrophy etc etc.
Call your vet.


I'm not going to call my vet unless he starts acting like he's in pain. I just wanted to see if people had any ideas on what he may or may not have, because if you just good "back pain in horses" you'll get so many crazy answers.
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 09:45 AM

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It's costs $150 for a vet to just pull into the driveway and another $200 for then to just look at him. So, I am knowledgeable and so if he needs vet attention, I will get it for him.
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 09:51 AM

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My sisters 19 year old horse does the same. He kinda just launched himself over it because A. He hasn't ever been properly taught to jump and B. He's a timid jumper so he tries to jump to big to avoid touching it lol
He has no back issue at all it's just him and the way he chooses to do it
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 11:02 AM

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My mare is difficult to round on the flat and engage her hindquarters. Also, when I first got her she was flat and fast over jumps. The issues with rounding are due to her confirmation, she's got a long back (weak back), she's got straight hocks and is naturally down hill. The issues we had with jumping were a combination of behaviour and poor training in her previous home. She had only ever learnt to go fast at jumps and was only ever ridden off a forward stride, this lead to her being panicky, especially when she got in deep or hit a pole. With patience and training my trainer and I have slowed her down and she in much happier. My mare rushed out of fear and ignorance, if you don't believe your horse is in pain, I'd imagine he might not be too fond of the barrels. Perhaps a training issue rather than a veterinary one. Hope this helps :)

Edited at August 15, 2020 11:03 AM by Mediterranean
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 11:51 AM

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Mediterranean said:
My mare is difficult to round on the flat and engage her hindquarters. Also, when I first got her she was flat and fast over jumps. The issues with rounding are due to her confirmation, she's got a long back (weak back), she's got straight hocks and is naturally down hill. The issues we had with jumping were a combination of behaviour and poor training in her previous home. She had only ever learnt to go fast at jumps and was only ever ridden off a forward stride, this lead to her being panicky, especially when she got in deep or hit a pole. With patience and training my trainer and I have slowed her down and she in much happier. My mare rushed out of fear and ignorance, if you don't believe your horse is in pain, I'd imagine he might not be too fond of the barrels. Perhaps a training issue rather than a veterinary one. Hope this helps :)


Jumping definitely isn't his favorite thing, I rarely jump him, but my sister was messing around on her horse so I jumped mine too. As I said above he definitely had an accident, I think he hung a leg maybe or was in a "poling" accident as he hates and "Show Jumping", post and rail, jumps with daylight under them.
Dont know what to title this August 15, 2020 01:43 PM

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There are many reasons a horse will behave that way. Ulcers, kissing spine, painful hocks, sore feet, bad training, badly fitting saddle, maybe he needs chiropractic work.
Usually a horse with kissing spine will buck or be resistant to contact. Keep an eye on it, but it's really hard for anybody here to give advice without being personally involved with the horse.
Dont know what to title this August 16, 2020 09:00 AM

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I second the answers relating to training. You say that you don't use this horse for jumping, and that what experience he had previous to you was sort of sketchy, maybe involving an accident or poor handling. In that case, unless the horse is a naturally good jumper, it makes sense that his jumping would be fast and flat. Especially over a smaller jump that's more like a speed bump and doesn't require him to really have any sort of arc to his jump. I doubt this is a vet issue.
Dont know what to title this August 16, 2020 01:44 PM

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EmeraldHillsFarm said:
I second the answers relating to training. You say that you don't use this horse for jumping, and that what experience he had previous to you was sort of sketchy, maybe involving an accident or poor handling. In that case, unless the horse is a naturally good jumper, it makes sense that his jumping would be fast and flat. Especially over a smaller jump that's more like a speed bump and doesn't require him to really have any sort of arc to his jump. I doubt this is a vet issue.


Exactly this ^

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