Odyssey Fields
01:01:33 
My captures have been absurdly lucky today and I dunno why cause I always have terrible luck with 3 year old captures.
Vecchia Modo
01:00:00 Vecc - TBs
Sabino is 'invasive' lol
Ruvyn
12:59:58 Ruv / Mai
San, same. I don't mind silver at all. I'm okay with ZZ.
I just remember chat the other day was talking about at one point most tbs were silver or something like that
Santana Rising
12:58:37 San
I would never call silver 'invasive' since I'm always happy when it's there. Even if all my horses were ZZ I probably wouldn't mind
Lunalovegood
12:58:15 
Nope I beat Nigel 1st try not that I donÂ’t normally but I also won a horse race (I never win)
Odyssey Fields
12:56:35 
Is it just me, or does today seem lucky for other people too?
Ruvyn
12:55:27 Ruv / Mai
Vecc maybe, i've been hearing that silver can get pretty invasive
Vecchia Modo
12:54:38 Vecc - TBs
Mai - maybe they had enough silver in their bloodlines.
Embervale Acres
12:53:06 Solar Phoenix
the names for mine are so varied XD

random ones, ones created with a name generator, based off songs or whatever else I'm in the mood for while naming

which is why on my side account I ended up with a RID gelding named Dance Dance lmao
MakeEm Fancy
12:52:34 Ally 💜
I havent named any of my geldings. Maybe I should 🤣
Ruvyn
12:52:20 Ruv / Mai
Lol this EEE's training. I can see why they didn't want to keep him
-HEE Click-
*snip snip*
Lunalovegood
12:50:40 
All of my horses are named but I only have 25 so it doesnÂ’t really count (IÂ’m building up money to get another barn)
Vecchia Modo
12:48:49 Vecc - TBs
77 show geldings plus 2 in training and 11 studs.
I don't show mares, just train them for 12 weeks.
The Lone Star
12:48:10 
I love giving names to the horsies. Mine are all named except for free rangers.
Angels angels
12:47:30 [1k brindles] Angel
Mine all just have random two word names lol usually whatever comes to mind first
Embervale Acres
12:47:01 Solar Phoenix
I name all my show geldings and put their ratings in there - it helps me keep track of everyone lol
Ruvyn
12:46:44 Ruv / Mai
Yeah I have about 4 accounts with 200 or more geldings and I name them all after their breeder and sometimes the sire too
Angels angels
12:45:33 [1k brindles] Angel
Almost 450 of them are gelds too
Angels angels
12:44:04 [1k brindles] Angel
Same Mai
I have over 1k horses and they are all named lol
Vecchia Modo
12:43:45 Vecc - TBs
My show gelds don't get names, just use the last four numbers of their ID plus their rates - some get a coat mention, like sooty or vitiligo
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5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 3, 2024 08:16 PM


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Hey all,
Reaching out to see if I can get any advice. I bought a 4yr old ottb in November 2023, he is now 5 and had a career ending paddock injury in May 2024. He also fractured his knee in March 2024 but that healed fine. His injury in May was a severe stifle injury, he tore multiple ligaments, damaged his meniscus, and we found OCD in that stifle (it was present during his ppe but apparently the vet who did it didn't pick up on it). Surgery is not an option for us. He has been retired in the paddock since August, and was on stall rest prior to that. We also injected steroids into the stifle and did lots of rehab which was unsuccesful.
He was doing great, but now that it's gotten cold, he has become extremely stiff. He is being boarded at my friends place so I don't have much control over his care in terms of turnout, blanketing, etc. He is usually on 24/7 turnout but recently the horses have stayed in at night due to the frozen ground and weather. He is stiff in the morning when he goes outside. I can choose his supplements.
My question... is there anything you would suggest doing to help the stiffness/lameness? Should we just wait it out until the weather becomes nicer and he hopefully feels better? He is on MSM, tumeric, probiotics, vitamin e/selenium, and magnesium. I would like things to stay on the cheaper side because keeping him as a pasture pet has already pushed things. Farrier doesn't suggest shoes for him as his injury makes him very uncomfortable holding his leg up, and he doesn't seem footsore. I am reluctant to put him on meds such as equioxx or bute due to the damage it could cause with starting at only 5 years old. He is happy all of the time that he isn't stiff/lame, so I would like to avoid putting him down as that would be devastating. TIA :)

*He will see the chiropractor in early March since that's the earliest available appointment

Edited at December 3, 2024 08:16 PM by Blue moon mountain
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 3, 2024 08:24 PM


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Wowzers! Sounds like alot is going on! Now,don't get me wrong,if I did have horses,I would give some help.For now all im going to say is if theres a feed store and they have anti-stiffness oils,grains,pellets etc,ask them what they think could help in your situation.Or,you could ask some vets what they would recomend.
*I do not own horses so if im wrong,im sorry as I would not know*
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 3, 2024 08:28 PM


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It really sounds like you're doing everything right. The supplements, the lifestyle, etc. Being a little stiff after 12 hours (I'm assuming the time but it might be less) in a stall is normal.
However, if it's really bad, maybe look at the protein content of his hay/grain? He might need less protein if he's getting really stiff.
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 3, 2024 08:30 PM


Blue moon mountain
 
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RFS Throughbreds said:
Wowzers! Sounds like alot is going on! Now,don't get me wrong,if I did have horses,I would give some help.For now all im going to say is if theres a feed store and they have anti-stiffness oils,grains,pellets etc,ask them what they think could help in your situation.Or,you could ask some vets what they would recomend.
*I do not own horses so if im wrong,im sorry as I would not know*


Thank you! Yes haha tons of stuff going on unfortunately. MSM is a joint supplement so I was hoping that would help but sadly it doesn't seem to be doing the job :)
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 3, 2024 08:32 PM


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FirstLightFarms said:
It really sounds like you're doing everything right. The supplements, the lifestyle, etc. Being a little stiff after 12 hours (I'm assuming the time but it might be less) in a stall is normal.
However, if it's really bad, maybe look at the protein content of his hay/grain? He might need less protein if he's getting really stiff.


I didn't think about that, will do! Thank you :) He is currently on the Active 12 feed from nutrena, which is 12% protein.
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 4, 2024 06:57 AM


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It's kinda on the pricier end but I'd look into swapping the MSM for Acti-flex (even if only in the winter) it also has boswelia in it thats a bit of an anti-inflam/pain reliever.
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 4, 2024 07:27 AM


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Cappuccino said:
It's kinda on the pricier end but I'd look into swapping the MSM for Acti-flex (even if only in the winter) it also has boswelia in it thats a bit of an anti-inflam/pain reliever.


I'll definetly look into it! Thank you :)
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 4, 2024 09:08 AM


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Does anyone have experience giving their horse SmartComfort pellets from smartpak? Wondering if that might help him; it looks like it might have more pain relief than Acti Flex. I'm not experienced in shopping for supplements though, so I could be wrong.
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 4, 2024 09:19 AM


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A client horse of mine tore his meniscus. The only thing that has really helped was arthramid injections - he gained a lot more comfort and range of motion in the field.

that said, he is ultimately retired given the inability to really rehab that injury. A friend of mine's horse had the surgery, only for them to open him up and realize they weren't able to successfully stitch it, which is apparently not uncommon for this surgery. Ugh. Its wonderful that you're willing to support him through a quiet life. ❤️
My older gelding doesn't have a stifle injury, but they are a point of discomfort. We managed it through his showing career with various injectable biologics and corrective shoeing. I tried to pull the shoes when he shifted to partially retired, since he also struggled to hold his hind feet up, and he got way worse. He gets dorm while shoeing now and is able to hold himself up and farrier has no issues. Just a thought!
5yr old OTTB: injury causing stiffness December 4, 2024 09:19 AM


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If you stick with the MSM, I'd recommend adding chondroitin and glucosamine. MSM by itself is helpful, but the triple combo can make a nice difference.

I don't know if this is feasible since you're boarding him, but you could also try a topical medication like Bigeloil. It's a good linament that can be massaged in. I recommend using gloves since it can make the skin between your fingers hot-tingly...Personal experience lol.

Otherwise, it sounds like you're already doing everything you can.


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