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Minerva
05:31:23 Min
It's a much more stomach-able number for us in the UK xD
Clear Springs
05:28:27 Froggie
It's the exchange rate. If I come to Oz, I get $15 AUD for every $10 USD I have to exchange and vice versa.
MC Ace
05:24:17 McFossil
Still its rough. I check the LBs and verify the number of the sire when I breed. If a foal drops them low on the LB I'll FR it. Generally make a note if the foal drive the parent up the LB. But I have not noticed a correlation between that and producing well.
The Old Gods
05:19:40 Void Malign
My bad, that's the #2 jumping boy.
Golden Crest
05:18:34 | Eve
I hate the extra we have to pay, Sting
MC Ace
05:18:14 McFossil
#1 is 8 too. Can't even say it's because he has so many foals on the ground due to being older.

SD is fun, but the current state is a bit disheartening.

The Old Gods
05:17:21 Void Malign
The #1 jumping boy was up 1/2/1 on his weeks 3/6/9, so at this point, I'm just -Click-
The Old Gods
05:14:56 Void Malign
The #2 dressage boy:
3: 211
6: 323

lol
The Old Gods
05:13:49 Void Malign
Considering the #1 dressage boy has this training:
3: 221
6: 232 L3
7: 333
9: 343

The rules are made up and the points don't matter
Ironhorse
05:12:28 Sting
this economy...
a $9 USD upgrade(3m) is bloody over $15 in AUD!

Spare a thought for your friends downunder.
MC Ace
05:12:13 McFossil
Nice #69. Yeah I get that. Not sure if we are bottlenecked somehow with breeding or if we need to change how we breed or interpret training.
The Old Gods
05:07:18 Void Malign
Had two that didn't land at all, so I'll likely wait for the w3s, see how the foals do and FR the entire crop of foals from them.
The Old Gods
05:06:09 Void Malign
I'm just tired because I had several stallions that were up 2 and 3 on their weeks 3/6/9 and leveled on 6 land sub #50 while the stallion that was only up 1 on 9 landed 30 something. I do get to claim one of them being #69, at least.
MC Ace
05:05:05 McFossil
Talked to the owner. Agreed that if he staggered on the LB we'd FR the foal. I'll FR anyway if it trains poorly so fingers crossed.
Clear Springs
05:04:50 Froggie
Bots are tools that exist for legitimate reasons. Unfortunately, they can be used for mayhem as well. Sort of like you can take your hammer to your neighbor's and help repair something or whack him over the head with it. It's the operator's intent that makes the tool a good or bad thing.
The Old Gods
05:03:39 Void Malign
How'd you managed to breed that mare to him?
MC Ace
05:02:17 McFossil
Eury
Experimenting. I feel your pain.
-HEE Click-
Cadence Farms
05:00:03 evebot
Like google bot will read the site and put us in the search engine so people can find us.
The Old Gods
04:59:57 Void Malign
I'm going to eat these horses. I'm tired of everyone training well and violently shitting themselves on the LBs
Cadence Farms
04:58:18 evebot
Not bots are bad. Some of them are used by search engines to index your site, which is good.

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Minerva
05:31:23 Min
It's a much more stomach-able number for us in the UK xD
Clear Springs
05:28:27 Froggie
It's the exchange rate. If I come to Oz, I get $15 AUD for every $10 USD I have to exchange and vice versa.
MC Ace
05:24:17 McFossil
Still its rough. I check the LBs and verify the number of the sire when I breed. If a foal drops them low on the LB I'll FR it. Generally make a note if the foal drive the parent up the LB. But I have not noticed a correlation between that and producing well.
The Old Gods
05:19:40 Void Malign
My bad, that's the #2 jumping boy.
Golden Crest
05:18:34 | Eve
I hate the extra we have to pay, Sting
MC Ace
05:18:14 McFossil
#1 is 8 too. Can't even say it's because he has so many foals on the ground due to being older.

SD is fun, but the current state is a bit disheartening.

The Old Gods
05:17:21 Void Malign
The #1 jumping boy was up 1/2/1 on his weeks 3/6/9, so at this point, I'm just -Click-
The Old Gods
05:14:56 Void Malign
The #2 dressage boy:
3: 211
6: 323

lol
The Old Gods
05:13:49 Void Malign
Considering the #1 dressage boy has this training:
3: 221
6: 232 L3
7: 333
9: 343

The rules are made up and the points don't matter
Ironhorse
05:12:28 Sting
this economy...
a $9 USD upgrade(3m) is bloody over $15 in AUD!

Spare a thought for your friends downunder.
MC Ace
05:12:13 McFossil
Nice #69. Yeah I get that. Not sure if we are bottlenecked somehow with breeding or if we need to change how we breed or interpret training.
The Old Gods
05:07:18 Void Malign
Had two that didn't land at all, so I'll likely wait for the w3s, see how the foals do and FR the entire crop of foals from them.
The Old Gods
05:06:09 Void Malign
I'm just tired because I had several stallions that were up 2 and 3 on their weeks 3/6/9 and leveled on 6 land sub #50 while the stallion that was only up 1 on 9 landed 30 something. I do get to claim one of them being #69, at least.
MC Ace
05:05:05 McFossil
Talked to the owner. Agreed that if he staggered on the LB we'd FR the foal. I'll FR anyway if it trains poorly so fingers crossed.
Clear Springs
05:04:50 Froggie
Bots are tools that exist for legitimate reasons. Unfortunately, they can be used for mayhem as well. Sort of like you can take your hammer to your neighbor's and help repair something or whack him over the head with it. It's the operator's intent that makes the tool a good or bad thing.
The Old Gods
05:03:39 Void Malign
How'd you managed to breed that mare to him?
MC Ace
05:02:17 McFossil
Eury
Experimenting. I feel your pain.
-HEE Click-
Cadence Farms
05:00:03 evebot
Like google bot will read the site and put us in the search engine so people can find us.
The Old Gods
04:59:57 Void Malign
I'm going to eat these horses. I'm tired of everyone training well and violently shitting themselves on the LBs
Cadence Farms
04:58:18 evebot
Not bots are bad. Some of them are used by search engines to index your site, which is good.

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than 1 day before you can use our chatbox.






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Training Question? June 28, 2019 10:43 PM

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Okay okay okay SO...
I like never train my horses because I don't really do shows (I'm trying to get into it I swear) and this game year I've been more focused on training my yearlings and 2 year olds and I have a question that's probably gonna sound dumb. I currently have 2 little baby EEEs, both are really similar crosses (like EEE x E) and both have had 4 weeks of training but one only popped up to 2 on one stat and the other popped to 2 on three stats. Does this mean the one who's improved the most is likely a stronger producer? Or does this only have to do with showing and training?
If anyone has any insights I'd be very thankful! (Sorry if this has been asked before, I skimmed the forum and didn't see anything about it)

Edit: this probably should've gone into the help section, but it's open for discussion too, so sorry if it's in the wrong place

Edited at June 28, 2019 10:45 PM by Automaton
Training Question? June 29, 2019 12:19 PM

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Years ago when I was here before (when P was the highest rating and E was being suggested) there was discussion on the boards that training bars were not an absolute measurement of horse quality, they were a graphic representation of the percentage of your horse's potential it had reached. This means a horse with a lower "ceiling" can gain stripes faster than a higher-rated horse, but it will never reach the same score levels or compete in shows as well. But this is mainly visible in later years of training when the lower rating is reaching its max potential and the EEE still has room to get better.

Here are 2 geldings from my stable, one SPP and one SEE, both training in all disciplines. The SPP has 11 training sessions and the SEE 17, but the SPP has either the same or more stripes than the SEE and is in higher showing levels. I'm sure as they get older the gap will widen, the SPP will hit his max and the SEE will soar ahead.

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Training Question? June 29, 2019 02:43 PM


Kuewi knn stable

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Any horse at HEE can be a great show horse - as soon as it will reach a certain training level, no matter which rating it has.


But training ist never an indicator on how good or bad a horse is able to produce.

Training shows which traits are better or worse and you want to track them on younger horses, so you will be able to match them the right way for their first breeding(s).

Any HEE breeding is affected by a random factor.
Some horses seems to trigger slightly better random factors, some not - but this is only a personal opinion!

But the training has nothing to do with breeding.
There have been very many "wonderhorses" training-wise that bombed as a producer and there have been a lot of slow training horses, that turned out to be great producers and ended up high on their boards ;)

Training Question? June 29, 2019 10:20 PM

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Thanks guys! This has been really helpful. As I said, I'm not really a trainer and I've only recently gotten into breeding for ratings, so I honestly wasn't sure. I've tried matching from training stats and it hasn't made a huge difference, but it's nice to know that training itself doesn't impact breeding.
Training Question? June 30, 2019 11:11 AM

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What tracking training does is allow you to see what traits come up fastest IN THAT HORSE so you know where its strengths and weaknesses are. Try to match your stud to a mare that's strong where he is weak. If his movement and scope are low, find a mare that has those traits high. Of course, the random factor does still mess you up sometimes, but that's how training "affects" breeding. The training stripes can be used as a guide to make good breeding matches.

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