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How does one know which foals to sell or keep? Who do you know who to purchase? Example I have a 3 year old mare sired by a ABLB stallion (TOP 5). Her training is just like her fathers yet she does not even make the board. So what makes him an ABLB horse and her not? You have three foals all training the same. All sired by good LB horses. Dam is also LB. Which do you sell which do you keep? Is it just a game of chance or am I missing something? |
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Mares only debut when they have 3 foals, which is usually at 5. |
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Mythical Meadows, Thank you. Will need to watch her for a couple more game years.
Edited at April 8, 2019 01:11 PM by 3 Rivers |
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This is easy to answer in each case with one question:
Do YOU think that this mare will be able to really improve yor stable rating or color wise (in 2 gameyears for a filly) - or do you think there are other mare in your stable or up for brood, decent in price and more obviousely the better producers than this one....
No matter what you are breeding for and not matter if you are a new or experienced stable. No matter which rating the horse has or which color genetics. No matter what you are told in chat or by your friends.
If the filly has a better rating than the mare and might be able to produce better than her dam ( which would show at least after 2-3 foals ) then I would keep the filly and cull or CS the dam.
Besides: Any show horse ( mare, CS-ed mare, stud or gelding ) can win up to 350k and more in its lifetime and is the best support your stable can have ;)
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What I am basically asking is what is the deciding factor in if a horse is LB quality or not. Is it training? or the uncertain game with its highs and lows? If you have two foals with the same rating which one do you put your time into. Example. I see many horses with a rating of PEE (COMBO) that have made the LB yet many EEE that have not. What makes the PEE combo better then the EEE? What do I look for in a horse. |
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The same simple answer:
You will never know before you bred the horse and it will appear on the LB.
A PEE might be higher on the eventing LB than an EEE because maybe it´s overall "points" are higher than from the EEE and it might be a better producer.
Training up will give you a slight idea on the weak and strong traits of a horse. But this is only interesting for matching - it does NOT give you any clue if the horse will be a good or a bad producer or will land on the LB at all! And with a couple (un)lucky training sessions in a row, some traits might look stronger/weaker in the first 10 weeks and then they turn around and show up completely different.
At the end it is always a game!
May I refer you to this blog: https://horseeden.com/blog.php?id=18024&b=12
How do the leaderboards work?
The leaderboards are determined by 75% from the horse itselves and 25% from the descendents that are still "alive" in the game. Freshman stallions (age 3) need to have 10 foals bred from them to make the leaderboard, 1 of those needs to be a live cover. Returning stallions (over age 3) just need to have bred a minimum of 1 live cover foal each game year to keep themselves on the leaderboard. Mares need to have at least 3 foals, no matter if the foals are still in the game or not to get on the boards.
Stallions LB is deleted every gameyear´s reroll and built up new in the next few days after the studs got used. Mares LB never gets deleted. All horses at the ago 18+ vanish from the boards as they dont have live covers available any more.
Single discipline LBs only look at the traits, that are important for this discipline. So even e.g. an EAA stallion can be high on the Dressage LB ;)
When a horse is created, it gets "points" - but they never show up for us players. They are the basics to determine the rating of a horse. So if a horse has more of these "points" by itselves, it is higher on the boards than one with less "points". But these "points" and the LB status are NOT a marker, if the horse is a good producer or not! To determine a good producer you will have to take a close look at all foals of a horse and the foals´ pedigrees. Low ratings in a pedigree ( e.g. a visible S rating ) do [b]not[/b] have any influence on the possibilies of a horse as a good-foal-producer, too! |
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thank you. Now I understand it a bit more. My second Freshman just made the LB and he came from not where but he just bred his 10th foal and he just showed up at about #35.
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Here is a blog about culling and tracking training that may also be beneficial to you. I highly recommend studying the ABLBs very thoroughly and then going through your barns to do a cull. Doing that is what brought my stables to the next level. I culled almost everything, started a gelding show horde and saved ebs until I could afford a brood to an ABLB mare and sven. Voila! That's what gave me my first ABLB mare who went on to produce a bunch of ABLB foals herself:) https://horseeden.com/blog.php?id=163539&b=3 |
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