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OH NO did I post in the wrong forum? Delete if this shouldn't be here! Thank you!
Hey there HEE breeders, I've found myself in a pickle for a long time. I've recently hit jackpot with one of my mares. She's my first well rated EEP mare that's produced EEE's and EEP's regularly, and I'm extremely happy with her:
https://www.horseeden.com/horse.php?id=17105149
and her daughter
https://www.horseeden.com/horse.php?id=18388328
However, every foal she's had (and I keep forgetting to test her with different stallions, whoops) has had pretty miserable training (a max of 1 trait up at 4 weeks). Even when bred to stallions with strong week 4 training (4+ traits). This is most obvious with a recent colt I was very excited about, but man... his training is lame:
https://www.horseeden.com/horse.php?id=18972178
Is this a pretty normal phenomenon for breeders who just broke into the EEE world? Are they still okay to breed? How can I improve my bloodline to be stronger Week 4's? I do try my best to match horses according to strengths and weaknesses, but I'm obviously missing something.
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EEPs will never produce as nicely as EEEs. You can see that already with the first colt by your EEE mare training 3 week 4, while none of the EEP's foals are training more than 1. Just keep doing what you're doing - breed up your strong EEPs so they throw EEEs, then breed those EEEs to strong ABLB studs, and rinse and repeat. Eventually your stock will start to grow stronger and you'll start seeing more impressive week 4s. Good luck! |
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Very unrelated, but I just had to comment on how I love the way that champagne is passed down to the foals. It makes them look like a special family :D
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Rocky Mtn Paints said:
EEPs will never produce as nicely as EEEs. You can see that already with the first colt by your EEE mare training 3 week 4, while none of the EEP's foals are training more than 1. Just keep doing what you're doing - breed up your strong EEPs so they throw EEEs, then breed those EEEs to strong ABLB studs, and rinse and repeat. Eventually your stock will start to grow stronger and you'll start seeing more impressive week 4s. Good luck!
That is how my stable is here as it stands. Multiple ABLB mares and stallions. It started roughly 2 years ago with a EPP AA mare who gave me several pee/EEE.. that girl gave me a PEE who ended up throwing me almost all EEE.. one of them actually landed on the LB (she just retired a couple months ago) who gave me another LB eee.. who gave me another lb eee.. who gave me a LB BARELY abjlb eee who gave me TWO ablb Studs.
If they aren't producing for you, drop them. Don't waste your time and EBS on a horse that just isn't doing it for you. HOWEVER don't give up on the eee girl yet because it is her first foal. Not all horses will train the same. That match could be perfect and have the potential to throw something really nice but RF is mean sometimes. I'd definitely keep breeding the two girls you got going. They're stunning and I see potential :) |
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Rocky Mtn Paints said:
EEPs will never produce as nicely as EEEs. You can see that already with the first colt by your EEE mare training 3 week 4, while none of the EEP's foals are training more than 1. Just keep doing what you're doing - breed up your strong EEPs so they throw EEEs, then breed those EEEs to strong ABLB studs, and rinse and repeat. Eventually your stock will start to grow stronger and you'll start seeing more impressive week 4s. Good luck!
Oh my gosh, that explains it! Thank you so much! I truly appreciate it. Good to know there's hope for my breeding program, hahaha!
HRS said:
Very unrelated, but I just had to comment on how I love the way that champagne is passed down to the foals. It makes them look like a special family :D
Thank you hahahaha!! We'll see if they can keep it up - I'd love to have some strong EEE champagne appies! :D |
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Nordic Acres said:
That is how my stable is here as it stands. Multiple ABLB mares and stallions. It started roughly 2 years ago with a EPP AA mare who gave me several pee/EEE.. that girl gave me a PEE who ended up throwing me almost all EEE.. one of them actually landed on the LB (she just retired a couple months ago) who gave me another LB eee.. who gave me another lb eee.. who gave me a LB BARELY abjlb eee who gave me TWO ablb Studs.
If they aren't producing for you, drop them. Don't waste your time and EBS on a horse that just isn't doing it for you. HOWEVER don't give up on the eee girl yet because it is her first foal. Not all horses will train the same. That match could be perfect and have the potential to throw something really nice but RF is mean sometimes. I'd definitely keep breeding the two girls you got going. They're stunning and I see potential :)
Thank you thank you, you're too kind!! Again, I truly appreciate it! What an incredible start to your stable, and super inspiring. It's good to hear I have some good mares on my hands – I've had such horrible luck with all of my EE+ girls before this. I hope I can keep up the streak! Woohoo! |
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