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So I've tried showing before, using the barn manager, however I was not seeing much profit if any at all. I understand that profits are not going to be huge, especially if I'm using the barn manager, however I was losing money. Most of the money I lost was going towards rider fees as I had show horses at all different levels- so I was basically paying riders tons 10k+ even though they were only assigned to a couple horses and not doing the most they could. I got rid of all my show horses and stopped using the barn manager at all. Like many other players, I find manual showing confusing and hard to understand. My plan for this time is to use the barn manager, and then go back into my barns and hand enter any horses left that I see are in the green. I would also purchase my show horses so that they are all the same levels so that I won't have to pay a bunch of different riders of various levels who aren't being put to maximum use. Does sound like a good plan? Should I use single discipline or all discipline horses? What level horses should I buy and are mares a no? Are there any barn manager guides out there? Thank you so much. Any other tips would be much appreciated, I'm a little reluctant to try again as I lost money last time but I do believe I can establish a working system with the right help! <3 |
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I can't really help on the barn manager front... I'm in a pretty similar position in that I find I don't make much profit, so I'd also appreciate anyone who has tips!
But as someone who has also found hand showing super difficult to understand I found this guide super super helpful, because it starts from literal scratch on a free account. I've recently set up an SA just to follow these steps and to see if I can figure out showing and so far it is working really well. It's been great having lower level SD horses at a similar training to keep rider fees down while you're figuring things out. I also read some of the pinned showing guides to fill any gaps. So I'd definitely recommend setting up an SA or even setting aside some cash and barn space on your main to give it a go, I found it a lot easier than expected! I don't have all the answers but feel free to PM me if you want a hand setting up that sort of showing system :) |
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I would definitely go with SD horses if you want to use the BM. Startig off with showing from the scratch, it will take time und patience to see the first pay-offs. Go and get at least 10 SD horses of one level and assign them to an AD trained rider. This way you can economize rider payment and the advantage of SD riders is very minimal. You should always try to keep a low number of riders and fill all empty spaces they have. You should be aware, that level 1 and 2 horses do not cost a lot of show fees - but the income is low, too. This is why I hardly ever assign them to the BM - but start with Level 3-4 horses. Gender does not matter at all! Mares can earn exactly as much as geldings or studs, they just take little longer to train up. But therefore they will stay in the greens longer than a fast leveling gelding. And I would advise to not use top E or W horses - because they level up way too fast to stay in the top green for longer than 1-2 weeks (3-6 shows!) And you have to go through your horses on at least 3 days per week - after the BM shows did run - and enter all the leftover horses into shows whenever they are ready. If a XC horse leveled up, it might be able to place in J or even D shows, while training up. But you always have to spend some ebs on test-entering them into a show and check if they would be able to place. So for the beginning, you maybe want to start with XC and J horses, as these disciplines share 2 traits - and training them up in one discipline will additionally train them in the other one, too. You just have to make sure they are strong in Hrt, as this is a very important trait for XC and J shows ;) Good luck and feel free to contact me with any more questions! |
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Alright! So what I'm thinking is SD horses (any gender), levels 3-4, rated S or P (in XC or J), training in a single discipline (as opposed to all at once) and assigned to an AD rider. said riders will be assigned to as many horses as they can be. I'll buy 20 to do a little test run :)
Do let me know if there's anything I should change before I go do that!
Thank you both SO much <33 |
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I have my BM assigned to both my D and XC SD barns, so she's maxed out and showing 200 horses for me. I make around 30k weekly at the minimum, and it's only so little because most of my geldings are wild horses and aren't trained up much yet. I highly recommend SD geldings (of any rating really, but he higher the rating the faster it'll train and level and the faster it'll make you more money). In fact one of my best show horses profit-wise is this AAS wild gelding. He's made me 2k in profit (earnings - entry fees) total just by himself. My schedule for entries is this: Monday: BM enters D/XC gelds, J gelds and Eventers manually entered Tuesday: BM enters D/XC gelds, J gelds and Eventers manually entered Wednesday: BM enters D/XC gelds, J gelds and Eventers manually entered Thursday: Any horses placing 7th+ are entered with the barn view Friday: Any horses placing 7th+ are entered with the barn view Saturday: Any horses placing 7th+ are entered with the barn view Sunday: Any horses placing 7th+ are entered with the barn view If you train your horses on Monday be sure to enter your horses then. Horses tend to level up the day after they're trained, so if you train Monday they'll most likely level Tuesday. Some level the day of training, and then the rest who can will level sporadically through the week. This is why I have the BM enter as soon as she can each week. Every single week around Sunday (or Monday if I don't on Sunday) I use the BM to reassign my horses and consult my riders. Reassinging is the 2nd option in the BM, and it just reassigns horses with red levels in your training view to a better rider. Consulting is the 3rd option in the BM, and it forces horses to be reassigned to riders with more experience (basically it clears out riders with few horses. If you have 3 level 2 riders each with 3 horses, she reassigns them so you have 1 rider with 9 horses instead). I then go to the rider's lounge and fire all horseless riders, which saves me rider's fees. Make sure "skip fed horses is NOT checked or these won't work. |
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Florestä said:
Alright! So what I'm thinking is SD horses (any gender), levels 3-4, rated S or P (in XC or J), training in a single discipline (as opposed to all at once) and assigned to an AD rider. said riders will be assigned to as many horses as they can be. I'll buy 20 to do a little test run :)
Do let me know if there's anything I should change before I go do that!
Thank you both SO much <33
I think E rated chow horses would be better, no? as they take less time to be in the money after levelling up again :P |
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KPH Equestrian said:
Florestä said:
Alright! So what I'm thinking is SD horses (any gender), levels 3-4, rated S or P (in XC or J), training in a single discipline (as opposed to all at once) and assigned to an AD rider. said riders will be assigned to as many horses as they can be. I'll buy 20 to do a little test run :)
Do let me know if there's anything I should change before I go do that!
Thank you both SO much <33
I think E rated chow horses would be better, no? as they take less time to be in the money after levelling up again :P
They also come out of the money faster. One of my best showers is an AAS combo. Rating has little bearing on performance in my experience and all that really changes is how long they take to train and how long they stay in the money. |
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