Buried Origins Ridge
12:14:01 Storm
Hey Cetta
Darkside Dreams
12:13:52 Grape the Haphazard
I would also suggest staking it up loosely with a stick and some string to keep it upright
Darkside Dreams
12:13:07 Grape the Haphazard
They're not dead until they're crispy and dead. Keep them warm and in a sunny window, water with miracle gro and don't water too much
Copperfield stable
12:13:03 asher
just finished a piece ive been working on for months, shes pretttyyyyy
Ragnarök Draughts
12:13:01 
It's still green you might be able to revive it
Frog Judgment Acers
12:11:56 Dulcie/Crazy
Here is the dead tomatoe

-Click-
Covetta
12:09:50 Vetta/Chrome
Heyyyy
Frog Judgment Acers
12:09:26 Dulcie/Crazy
Tell me more about this watering with salt
Also ill look up nitrogen deficiency
SandWitch Arabians
12:09:15 Witchypoo
You might have just over-watered them.
or, they were 'chilled' when you first put them outside.
of they could have a diseases
Frog Judgment Acers
12:08:17 Dulcie/Crazy
So the ship has sailed unfortunately
They are dead
I did not regularly leaf water but it happened
I used no fertilizer except some rabbit fertilizer I had mixed into the dirt
They where not over waterd
Ragnarök Draughts
12:05:42 
Can we see the pictures Dulcie?
Darkside Dreams
12:05:05 Grape the Haphazard
Have you given them fertilizer(bottom watered, not on the leaves)? Are they being over watered?
Tomatoes can be finicky sometimes. Does it have a big enough pot?
SandWitch Arabians
12:04:50 Witchypoo
Lace - it's decent
Iris Grove
12:04:37 Lace
dulcie
have you used any miracle grow? you also might try bottom watering with salt in it^^
The Old Gods
12:04:01 Void Malign
Might be low nitrogen.
Ragnarök Draughts
12:03:15 
You're not watering them on the leaves and plant itself right? Just the substrate?
Iris Grove
12:02:58 Lace
KNN experts, is his week 4 decent?
-HEE Click-
Frog Judgment Acers
12:02:01 Dulcie/Crazy
I need plant help
I have some tomatoes that where growing indoors & a mint plant
All the tomatoes one by one began to wilt
Regardless of how much water they got
I have put them on the porch during nice days but this has also had no affect
The symptoms;
Turn pale green (not yellowish) & wilt from the leaf tips downward
I haven't thrown out the plants so can take pictures if needed
Kfantasy
12:01:24 K
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Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 17, 2018 08:39 PM
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I have read all the guides I can find but still cannot figure it out. If I find some more I get stuck on I will edit this post.

Edited at December 17, 2018 08:43 PM by Royal Crown Acres
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 17, 2018 08:56 PM
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What are you needing explained to you? What colours the genes can cause, or something else?
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 04:50 AM
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Anglachel Acres said:
What are you needing explained to you? What colours the genes can cause, or something else?

I don't really understand how the genes mix if that makes sense. Like if one horse is Rnrn and the other is rnrn what are the possibilities? And so on so forth with the other two genes.
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 05:55 AM

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You can find the explanations in these two guides:

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=45

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=49


And you can see all expressions of the color variations via this link:

http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 03:13 PM
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Kuewi KNN Stable said:
You can find the explanations in these two guides:

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=45

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=49


And you can see all expressions of the color variations via this link:

http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html


What about the t in agouti? I can't seem to find anything about.
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 04:01 PM

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The t in agouti makes brown

Ata heterozyous brown
AtAt homozygous brown
AAt homozygous bay hiding brown (bay is dominant over brown)
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 20, 2018 02:31 PM
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Jericho Stables said:
The t in agouti makes brown

Ata heterozyous brown
AtAt homozygous brown
AAt homozygous bay hiding brown (bay is dominant over brown)


Thank you so much!
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 25, 2018 07:23 PM

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Not sure if you are still looking, but this is how I understand it... :)

Agouti and Extension help create the "base coats".

Agouti takes a black horse and makes a bay by restricting black in the body, creating the "points" (legs and mane/tail). It has 4 levels: aa (black), Aa (dark bays [seal brown, mahogany, etc]), AA (light bays [light, cherry, blood, etc]), and Ata (chestnut/brown).

Extension is also called the "Red factor". It is responsible for the degree of red in chestnut and bay, how "bright" the color is. It is similar to a light switch: if it is there, it's on; if not, it's dark. When it's on, it shows up in various shades.

The two above genes work together on a sliding scale. The X axis is one, Y the other. Black is zero, or the "base", 6x6 is bright chestnut.
https://www.freemathhelp.com/images/lessons/xy1.png

Roan works similar to Agouti, only it replaces base hairs on the body with white/grey.

I hope this makes sense! :)
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? January 4, 2019 06:18 PM
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WarriorMaiden said:
Not sure if you are still looking, but this is how I understand it... :)

Agouti and Extension help create the "base coats".

Agouti takes a black horse and makes a bay by restricting black in the body, creating the "points" (legs and mane/tail). It has 4 levels: aa (black), Aa (dark bays [seal brown, mahogany, etc]), AA (light bays [light, cherry, blood, etc]), and Ata (chestnut/brown).

Extension is also called the "Red factor". It is responsible for the degree of red in chestnut and bay, how "bright" the color is. It is similar to a light switch: if it is there, it's on; if not, it's dark. When it's on, it shows up in various shades.

The two above genes work together on a sliding scale. The X axis is one, Y the other. Black is zero, or the "base", 6x6 is bright chestnut.
https://www.freemathhelp.com/images/lessons/xy1.png

Roan works similar to Agouti, only it replaces base hairs on the body with white/grey.

I hope this makes sense! :)


I kind of get it. Would you be able to pm me about how exactly the chart works. I can't find anything useful online about it. I don't know why genetics are so hard for me.

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