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ArcticLights
07:55:23 Ceci / (Call me) AL
So only train and test. Only way of finding out
ArcticLights
07:54:01 Ceci / (Call me) AL
And the horse strength can be confusing since its easy to think strength = training. But that doesnt explain amazing training that doesnt land high at all and more "meh?" that lands high
Insignia Elites
07:52:44 Em
Ok thanks! Really trying to get on there :)
ArcticLights
07:51:54 Ceci / (Call me) AL
LBs are 75% horse strength, 25% foals
ArcticLights
07:51:29 Ceci / (Call me) AL
As for if there is an age they will never show up? Generally the older the more unlikely. Its not uncommon for horses to sink on the LBs as newer stronger horses enters
Insignia Elites
07:50:11 Em
and to get on it, is it based on winnings, foal ratings etc?
ArcticLights
07:49:06 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Mares debut at 4 with embryos, stallions at 3
ArcticLights
07:48:38 Ceci / (Call me) AL
A mare need 3 foals to land LB
A stallion needs 10 (one by LC) and then one foal each month to show up
McSmith Ranch
07:48:15 Mac | Thing 2
Studs it's a 3 with 10 foals bred etc
McSmith Ranch
07:47:48 Mac | Thing 2
If bred every year, at 5 years old, I don't remember if embryos change that or not.
Bluebonnet Estates
07:47:41 Blue ~ Poodle Rat
I despise hot dogs, I had a disgusting boiled hot dog at a hot air balloon festival once that made me insanely sick, and ever since I can't eat them without gagging 😒
Insignia Elites
07:46:50 Em
How does a stallion or mare get on the LB? Is there a certain age that if they aren't on there they probably won't?
Glacier Bay Cove
07:39:02 Arctic Katz
Turkey hot dogs are the only ones that don't upset my stomach
Angels angels
07:38:21 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I love hotdogs lol
I buy the beef ones
Thunder~Country
07:37:55 
I have officially hit 1m in savings
Glacier Bay Cove
07:32:36 Arctic Katz
I had to stop eating pork hot dogs and switch over to turkey hot dogs
Eagle Creek
07:31:45 Eagle
Hot*
Eagle Creek
07:31:39 Eagle
I hate got dogs makes me sick
Sleepwalker Centre
07:23:03 Walker
Somebody in my apartment building is having hot dogs, I can smell 'em
Stonybrook
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ArcticLights
07:55:23 Ceci / (Call me) AL
So only train and test. Only way of finding out
ArcticLights
07:54:01 Ceci / (Call me) AL
And the horse strength can be confusing since its easy to think strength = training. But that doesnt explain amazing training that doesnt land high at all and more "meh?" that lands high
Insignia Elites
07:52:44 Em
Ok thanks! Really trying to get on there :)
ArcticLights
07:51:54 Ceci / (Call me) AL
LBs are 75% horse strength, 25% foals
ArcticLights
07:51:29 Ceci / (Call me) AL
As for if there is an age they will never show up? Generally the older the more unlikely. Its not uncommon for horses to sink on the LBs as newer stronger horses enters
Insignia Elites
07:50:11 Em
and to get on it, is it based on winnings, foal ratings etc?
ArcticLights
07:49:06 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Mares debut at 4 with embryos, stallions at 3
ArcticLights
07:48:38 Ceci / (Call me) AL
A mare need 3 foals to land LB
A stallion needs 10 (one by LC) and then one foal each month to show up
McSmith Ranch
07:48:15 Mac | Thing 2
Studs it's a 3 with 10 foals bred etc
McSmith Ranch
07:47:48 Mac | Thing 2
If bred every year, at 5 years old, I don't remember if embryos change that or not.
Bluebonnet Estates
07:47:41 Blue ~ Poodle Rat
I despise hot dogs, I had a disgusting boiled hot dog at a hot air balloon festival once that made me insanely sick, and ever since I can't eat them without gagging 😒
Insignia Elites
07:46:50 Em
How does a stallion or mare get on the LB? Is there a certain age that if they aren't on there they probably won't?
Glacier Bay Cove
07:39:02 Arctic Katz
Turkey hot dogs are the only ones that don't upset my stomach
Angels angels
07:38:21 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I love hotdogs lol
I buy the beef ones
Thunder~Country
07:37:55 
I have officially hit 1m in savings
Glacier Bay Cove
07:32:36 Arctic Katz
I had to stop eating pork hot dogs and switch over to turkey hot dogs
Eagle Creek
07:31:45 Eagle
Hot*
Eagle Creek
07:31:39 Eagle
I hate got dogs makes me sick
Sleepwalker Centre
07:23:03 Walker
Somebody in my apartment building is having hot dogs, I can smell 'em
Stonybrook
07:16:00 
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Aris Chaotic Crashcourse Guide to Genetics January 24, 2024 11:50 AM


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This is still a work in progress, I just decided to publish it and continue working on it with it published

Just what the title says

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In this I'm going to teach you how to read a genetics test, figure out the % chance of a gene being passed on, and what genes make what colours in the first place.

I am subscribed to this topic so once it's completed feel free to post your questions here and I'll get back to you asap!


Edited at April 28, 2024 02:04 AM by The Joker
Aris Chaotic Crashcourse Guide to Genetics January 24, 2024 12:11 PM


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PART ONE: Genetic tests

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So to start off with, what the heck are genetic tests in the first place? A genetic test allows us to see what colour and pattern genes the horse carries, as well as how many copies of them.

First we are going to do a gene test on a horse. This is the horse in question.

Notice beside her sales history here is blank.

Next we click on manage your horse, click on genetic test, then click the submit button.

Once we've clicked on this we'll now see that a new button has appeared on the horse's page.

Now we'll click on this, which will bring up the gene test!

So, take a quick skim through the gene test and familiarise yourself with the different sections.

Part 1:1 Extensions and Agouti

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Extensions determines what the base colour will be by allowing black pigment to be expressed in the coat. ee is chestnut, Ee and EE can be either bay or brown or black.

ee = chestnut
Ee/EE = bay, brown, and black

Agouti determines what colour the horse will be if it is not chestnut by controlling the distribution and location of black in the horse's coat. If it is chestnut then it can carry any of the following because the agouti is irrelevant to the coat colour as it doesn't have any affect on chestnuts.

AA and Aa = bay
Ata and Atat = brown
aa = black

Part 1:2 Patterns and Other Genes

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Anything with all lowercase letters is a gene she doesn't have, so this mare does not carry roan (rnrn) dun (dd) champagne (chch) grey (gg) white (ww) sabino (sbsb) frame (oo) or PATN-1 (patn-1patn-1).

There are however two exceptions to the lowercase rule. And those are the cream genes and the pearl genes.
Cream (CC) means they do not carry cream, one copy of cream will look like CcrC, and two copies look like CcrCcr.

Pearl is a recessive gene, so if the horse has PrlPrl it does not carry it, Prlprl means it has one copy, and prlprl means the horse carries two copies of it.

Back to our example gene test.. this mare has heterogygous (single copy) genes of silver (Zz) splash white (Splspl) rabicano (Rbrb)

And she has homozygous (double copies) of tobiano (ToTo) leopard complex/appaloosa (LpLp) and PATN-2 (PATN-2PATN-2)

Since she carries one copy of the splash white gene (Splspl) that gene is heterogynous. She carries two copies of the leopard complex (LpLp) which makes it homozygous, which means she is guarenteed to pass one copy of the appaloosa gene to her offspring.

Heterozygous genes means the horse carries one copy of a gene, and homozygous means they carry two copies of that gene and guarentee that their offspring will inherit that gene from them. So her foals are guaranteed to inherit tobiano, appaloosa, and P2

Anything in phenotype does not get passed down to offspring, it's randomised. Brindle should technically be in there too since it is not inheritable. We'll come back to it later with some more examples of phenotype genes :D

Part 1:3 Recap

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To recap

- extensions are the base colour, agouti is the gene that determines what

- colour the horse will be if it is not a chestnut

-the different colour patterns are what give the horses patterns

-the pattern genes at the bottoms of the page (P1, P2) affects what appaloosa and tobiano patterns the horse has. (fun fact, horses can have Lplp/LpLp that doesn't show up in their coats if they don't have have any pattern genes)

-phenotypes are random and do not get passed down to offspring


Edited at January 25, 2024 02:59 PM by The Joker
Aris Chaotic Crashcourse Guide to Genetics January 25, 2024 02:56 PM


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PART TWO: Duns and Dilutes and Creams, oh my!

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For this part we are going to be looking at what adding different genes onto the base colours does. I'm not going into patterns as White Hills has a brilliant visual patterns library here

Part 2:1 Chestnuts

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Chestnuts come in a few different shades of "regular" chestnut, liver chestnut, black chestnut, as well as flaxen chestnut and flaxen liver chestnut.
Regular Chestnut
And here are the other mentioned variations just for curiosities sake

Okay, now to the fun part :D or should I say.. dun part?
If you take a chestnut (ee + any agouti) and mix it with a dun gene (Dd/DD) you'll get a
Red dun
If you mix a chestnut (ee) with a cream gene (CcrC/CcrCcr) you'll get
Palomino
A palomino is a single dilute. If you get a double dilute by mixing two cream genes and getting a double cream you'll get
Cremello
If you mix chestnut with a roan gene (Rnrn/RnRn) you'll get
Red Roan
And if you mix chestnut (ee) with double pearl genes you'll get a cool colour called
Apricot

Edited at January 25, 2024 06:07 PM by The Joker

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