MakeEm Fancy
10:21:56 Ally 💜
I almost died during labor they had to rush me in for an emergency c section that ultimately almost made me lose my child. After that I had lost so much blood and they let me get so low and brushed if off. I was in and out of consciousness for two days before they actually decided to give me a transfusion
Fairytale Paints
10:20:10 Im Elf
1st baby I spent a week in the hospital afterwards with an uterine infection...
So never had great experiences.
And doctors can't garentee it won't happen again
Fairytale Paints
10:18:13 Im Elf
Ally
I feel that.
I ended up in the ER days 3 days later after being discharged from having my 2nd.
With 103 fever.
They didn't know what was wrong with me so they where going to open me up for exploratory surgery.

Spent the next 2 months in and out of the hospital
SJ_Foundation
10:17:21 Mack
Granny C
When I'm having existential crisis, that's what I worry about. Her future. I don't want another kid, but i had such a great experience with my sister, sometimes I wonder if I'd be taking something special away from her
Circle Star RIDs
10:16:18 Granny C
night Mack
MakeEm Fancy
10:16:09 Ally 💜
Mine is because I almost died twice with my second and evidently I have traumatic pregnancies
Circle Star RIDs
10:15:33 Granny C
The world is just too nuts now. Even if I could, I wouldn't bring another child into this world.
SJ_Foundation
10:15:31 Mack
Imma head out. Love talking to you guys! Yall make my day. Farewell, and good night
Pagani
10:14:48 Ani | Ant 🌚
Nat

I was evicted aha
my momma had a c-section for all her kids.
Fairytale Paints
10:13:22 Im Elf
I think that's what deters me from having another
Is the weekly stressing testing at the last trimester
SJ_Foundation
10:12:42 Mack
I was a tiny baby. Healthy but tiny
MakeEm Fancy
10:12:29 Ally 💜
My first was 8 inches long. My second was 19 inches long
Aussie Stables
10:12:21 Yeah, i'm a guy lol
hi guys
2 Lazy 2 Ranch
10:12:13 Nat
Ant
Your poor mom 😅
Fairytale Paints
10:11:22 Im Elf
Was* not Mt
Pagani
10:11:05 Ani | Ant 🌚
Nat

I was 10 lbs and 2oz and 22 inches long 😭
2 Lazy 2 Ranch
10:11:05 Nat
My hubby and I are petty tall, all 5 of my siblings and I were long babies so I think it runs in the family haha
MakeEm Fancy
10:11:03 Ally 💜
I feel that. I was high risk with my second pregnancy. Ultrasounds every 2 weeks and then every week once I hit 30 weeks
Fairytale Paints
10:10:53 Im Elf
My first Mt 8 lbs 5 oz
My second was 10lb 2 oz
Lol
SJ_Foundation
10:08:17 Mack
Oh my 21 inches? I didn't even know that was a thing
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Sagebrush
 
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Darkside Dreams said:

Crystal River said:

Versailles said:

Darkside Dreams said:
Is it allowable to make a suggestion to raise the FR cap? Obviously not remove it, but raise it to 500 or 1000? It won't fix the problem, hell, it won't do much at all, but right now 100k is enough of a joke that I'm not even bothering with gathering FR fodder.



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Go for it! I know there was plenty of backlash when it was first introduced and I know that there is definitely still disagreement about it BUT if I'm being honest, I will be surprised if Eve does actually decide to change the cap.


I don't know how much attention the suggestion would receive, but I think it'd help balance out the economy again to make sure people can actually breed foals for fun, also without letting them go crazy wild. A higher cap doesn't seem unreasonable in my eyes.


I believe at least a try could be very helpful


Looked through the suggestions and it's been suggested several times, and locked every time. Eve herself said(albeit 2 years ago) that the cap won't be raised. Extremely disappointing, but it is what it is I guess.
Disappointing thing is showing isn't an option for some. Some people just don't and can't grasp the concept no matter how it's spun, so where do they get their money if they're not an artist, top breeder, or willing to spend RL money?


Maybe this incentive is to spedn RL money to fund the game. But if that becomes a requirement, unfortunately a lot of players (especially younger) wouldn't be able to play anymore. I've always loved this game because Eve still makes money with the upgrades, but you have a way to buy them with ebs.
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Versailles said:

Sagebrush said:

Versailles said:
Unfortunately my slots are starting to slow down too lol.
If they don't pick up again, I'm going to have to rely on geldings... The trouble becomes, when I'm no longer on break from college stuff, I won't be able to keep up with HEE.
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I, too, earned a lot from broods. Hay, lower LB stud fees, etc. Those are what funded even my matches that DIDN'T have svens. Since those foals won't sell, there comes a point at which studs lower on the boards aren't used, and broods that aren't on the boards at all are ignored. Less foals means less hay, now hay won't sell.
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If the foals end up at 0 value or negative value (at least 750 for the breed approvals), people just won't breed them. Period. And then everything related to them, tanks. I don't know how to solve this in my case. I had a variety of things I used to do in place of geldings, but none of them are currently working.
I never approve my foals because of this, I only approve any keepers/horses that have good breeding because nothing is selling and I literally can't make any sort of profit. WIth capturing, it used to cost 3k, plus approval so 3750. I used to be able to sell them for 2k+ and then I'd breed a few foals to FR and break even/make a profit. Not although capturing is cheaper (2750), I can't even sell my unbred mares for 1k, and my foals for 600. However I'm also seeing art go for record high prices in auctions. I remeber a few years ago, Coldwater and Trigg did a collab (this piece) back in 2019 and it went for 2-3 mil. Nowadays I can sell a piece rather easily for 2.5 mil, and their piece could probably reach 7-10+ mil. I don't know if the problems we're having are because of having too much money or too little money, but inflation of top studs/broods/arts and the devaluation of many things like regular horses/broods/studs is interesting.


I'd give it a try again. I'm curious. I used to see pieces go for 1-2mil consistently, if they were good- but now I'm seeing a lot of artists, unless they make something extremely fantastic and detailed, get around 200-600k depending on who it is


and like versa said, a lot of sales is also based on reputation, such as mana, zomb , versa of course, sagebrush, etc. it's a hard gig lol
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Honestly after taking a short three month ish break from the game, I can see how much the economy is changing, especially when it comes to art. As Versa's been saying, the lack of sales in art (even in T1) seems to be kind of worrying. Probably another sign of the economy going to crap lol.
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I'm not sure about everyone else but I just got active again (so much going on in real life) about a week or so ago. I think I took almost a full year hiatus, just logging in to maintain activity and I want to say a half a year to a year before that I was barely on (coincidentally, I think right around the FR cap I started becoming less active). It does feel different but could be just a hectic time for everyone as Sagebrush mentioned.
I regret leaving for so long, all but 3 of my horses were dead and I'm now rebuilding my showstring. I wanted to immediately hop into purchasing broods again, but I'm going to be spending awhile just gaining an income even with what I amassed while gone. But with the price of things I know that I won't have enough to really get me effectively anywhere until I build up my showing program.
I know y'all are talking about the economy and I feel like it started to get worse around when I left and it sounds like it's just hitting a tough spot. I've been checking out different forums to see how things are and I've barely been back but I will admit it feels different (but again, I've not been back long).
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Where I'm seeing this come up, having witnessed it over the past several years, is in the community engagements.

Wishing Wells are constantly being overwhelmed with stables 'wising' for upgrades, breedings, EBs, barns.
Is it the responsibility or the expected generosity of the players who have slogged through learning to Show, Breed, Art, etc. to then pay for others to get a handout to reach similar level?

Clubs and Contests are being forced to increase the level of payouts to even meet the current economic demand. A ten thousand Eden Buck payout or item equivalent is absolute pennies and will either go unclaimed or dismissed with disrespect. If you aren't offering an incentive of a Glass/Medallion/Sven or EBs equivalent - no one wants to participate.

The players who enjoy the club or community activity - are usually willing to donate a bit of what they have (items, horses, breedings, art); but the general consensus is that it's totally unwanted.
How are you supposed to communicate to those generous and kind stables who are supporting your efforts, with the fact that 'Their Donation Isn't Good Enough for the Community'?

There's an imbalance with trying to get people to join a club (buy into the community), generate enough money in the ledger to then disperse back to the group through contests or raffles or other community engagements. The Club Staff who spend countless hours doing everything they can to keep an interesting and active atmosphere - are left with little to nothing for their work. Rarely are 'Thank You's sent when prizes are given out. Or the hardwork acknowledged, or the hours of time and energy spent on making it unique.

It's the Take Take Take attitude from a decent chunk of players, that makes Burnout for this game and community so real.

You can see it in so many areas around HEE - so many sections of the Forums, the Roleplay Section, Contests, Clubs, Chat.

I'm seeing negative demeanors from all over. The way people talk to each other, chat, comment, message; passive aggression seems to be a love language to some.

When it costs nothing to be kind, why be anything else?

Is everyone on vacation? May 17, 2024 11:18 PM


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Boulder Creek said:

Where I'm seeing this come up, having witnessed it over the past several years, is in the community engagements.

Wishing Wells are constantly being overwhelmed with stables 'wising' for upgrades, breedings, EBs, barns.
Is it the responsibility or the expected generosity of the players who have slogged through learning to Show, Breed, Art, etc. to then pay for others to get a handout to reach similar level?

Clubs and Contests are being forced to increase the level of payouts to even meet the current economic demand. A ten thousand Eden Buck payout or item equivalent is absolute pennies and will either go unclaimed or dismissed with disrespect. If you aren't offering an incentive of a Glass/Medallion/Sven or EBs equivalent - no one wants to participate.

The players who enjoy the club or community activity - are usually willing to donate a bit of what they have (items, horses, breedings, art); but the general consensus is that it's totally unwanted.
How are you supposed to communicate to those generous and kind stables who are supporting your efforts, with the fact that 'Their Donation Isn't Good Enough for the Community'?

There's an imbalance with trying to get people to join a club (buy into the community), generate enough money in the ledger to then disperse back to the group through contests or raffles or other community engagements. The Club Staff who spend countless hours doing everything they can to keep an interesting and active atmosphere - are left with little to nothing for their work. Rarely are 'Thank You's sent when prizes are given out. Or the hardwork acknowledged, or the hours of time and energy spent on making it unique.

It's the Take Take Take attitude from a decent chunk of players, that makes Burnout for this game and community so real.

You can see it in so many areas around HEE - so many sections of the Forums, the Roleplay Section, Contests, Clubs, Chat.

I'm seeing negative demeanors from all over. The way people talk to each other, chat, comment, message; passive aggression seems to be a love language to some.

When it costs nothing to be kind, why be anything else?



This is true on here and IRL, it's like saying Thank You hurts them somehow.
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On here, I'd like to note that the Take Take Take attitude is fed largely by the fact that people can't get their hands on much by themselves and don't want to miss out on something. If a dog is starving, of course it's going to snap up every bit of food you drop. But there is a fine line between actually needing something and just being greedy, a scale that often tips to the latter when people expect free handouts.
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I have been playing this game since 2015 and I have never used any real money. A couple of times I have bought a Premium using ebs but I have found that the economy for free stables is better. I also stay in the Small Stable category (under 200 horses). I am very successful and I never spend ebs on frivolities like items or art.

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