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-HEE Click- best reroll so far
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-Click- any ideas on how to get the siloheutte right or how to improve the overall image???/
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That's more of a sales chat kinda thing
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What is a reasonable sale price for this wild? -HEE Click-
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Bri, I have to say this: I love your art! It is so beautiful! And what app do you use?
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First bred EWW :O
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Thoughts on this
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12:24:15 
My dog was taught to pick stuff off the floor like keys. I put a bobble keychain on it so she could easily pick them up.
She also would bring the mail from the mailbox into the house.
She loved the small jobs.
When she was younger, she could also spend two hours running in the dog park or the backyard.

It made her feel useful, it made her calmer in the house, and easier in public.
She loved meeting new people, especially kids, and she was a BIG dog, so she was taught she had to lay down to meet someone new, and then she would present her belly for rubs (one of her absolute favorite things).
It made her think and respond accordingly to people.

She wasn't the most mannered dog - still would bark at the door and if she knew the person would jump on them and lick their ears.

Not all dogs are perfect but
Boulder Creek
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Sorry for the whole rambling rant - training and behavior are a HUGE passion for me.

There are great clicker training podcasts. My favorite is Equine Clicker 101, as it gives a step by step guide to the session and also what to do for troubleshooting situations.

There's a few people who are on the Video Social Media who give training tips and ideas for keeping an energetic dog.
Like small things you can do is make meal time interesting and a challenge - scattering kibble in a towel and rolling it up, or in a ball, or a frozen peanut butter Kong.
Anything that makes them take longer to eat and have to use their brain.

Something mentally challenging is almost as energy depleting as something physically challenging.

Having a job can also promote self confidence in a dog.
Something simple like bringing you the re
Evermore Estate
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Strut you want mares strong in M and I. St wouldnÂ’t hurt either
Boulder Creek
12:11:19 
Training a service dog was one of the most rewarding experiences I've had.
She loved having a job - from being a mobility guide, anxiety helper, and even household chores like putting dishes in the sink, garbage and recycling, and putting laundry in the basket.

Training is one of those things that is always happening - every time you interact with anyone, you are teaching them how to interact with you.
If you let a horse or dog take up your space, they will then you think that that's an okay behavior.
Sometimes sessions are about fun things like crawl and roll over, sometimes it's experiencing a new environment and relaxing, and other times it's going back to basics.
Have fun - do dog things
Work on manners - in th house
Work on tasks
You can't demand perfection all the time, they should be allowed to be an animal, but make it interesting and fun to do different things all the time. Even if it's something small.
3S Cast n Characters
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The only thing my dog retained in training, is good girl spot and finish, means pee and poo. hahaha other things because of being a Chihuahua mix and selective do and hearing
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like what am i supposed to look for
Broadaxe Ranch
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ok i have a question.

to get a better rating what should i breed this guy to??
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Yep I trained my dogs myself🙂 not much to say with Minga lol cause she tries to murk people and ity her jumps sometimes, but my rescue Shiya and my dog Ive had since I was 10(LiLi) I both trained. LiLi and I did 4H dog club, and got BIS at the show:)
Hummingbird Meadows
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@Lucky, I just need to find the time and energy! 😉
Snitches' Stitches
11:35:10 Stitch
Going new places can also be a good workout. We take our pit mix out to new hiking areas whenever we can and all of the new things really help to wear him down.
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Elite Perfection's Culling Guide March 20, 2017 01:41 PM

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This was originally posted by Elite Perfection, stable#6
but I was so free to transfer it to the new forums:




I've received this question a lot over the past few days, so thought I'd post what I do. This is just what I do, and to some of you it may look crazy, but it has worked for me. I breed between 200-300 mares a year. And I have breeding reports like this.

E/E/E: 1
P/E/E: 7
E/E/P: 13
E/E/S: 1
S/E/E: 3
P/P/E: 6
E/P/P: 18
P/E/P: 25
P/P/P: 104

The ones that have been set free are almost ALL PPS, SPP, PSP with a few double superb/premium combos. I have a rare few SSS, like maybe 3 or 4. Those are normally from weak freshmen. This is my overall breeding report.

E/E/E: 8
E/P/E: 4
E/E/P: 39
P/E/E: 51
E/E/S: 3
S/E/E: 18
P/P/E: 65
E/P/P: 112
P/E/P: 218
E/P/S: 23
S/E/P: 30
S/P/E: 31
P/P/P: 1222
P/S/P: 32
P/P/S: 244
S/P/P: 497

9 of my 11 breeding stallions are on the All Breeds Leaderboard list. They are also scattered about on the various other boards too. Arrogante isn't on a leaderboard, but he is the games only wild PPP apricot stallion and actually produces very well. Magnetic Moon is also special to me and has produced an EEE, so he gets to stay for a few of my pearl/apricot mares.

I also have 9 mares on the All Breeds Leaderboard list, and more that I bred are on there, but I no longer own. I have more mares scattered on the other leaderboards as well.

These are my awards from last year.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #2 top eventing sire overall.
Year #46: Peter Panic ♚ was #10 top eventing sire overall.
Year #46: Apocalypse Now ♚ was #30 top eventing sire overall.
Year #46: G. I. Joe ♚ was #37 top eventing sire overall.
Year #46: Bestill My Heart ♚ was #52 top eventing sire overall.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #6 top jumping sire overall.
Year #46: Peter Panic ♚ was #60 top jumping sire overall.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #42 top cross country sire overall.
Year #46: The Sound of Music~x10 ♚ was #2 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Music To My Ears~~******♚ was #8 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Darling Lili ♚ was #14 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Magica~*** ♚ was #31 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Secret Ninjas~~****** ♚ was #35 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Lady Humour~******* ♚ was #47 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Persuasion~~*x9♚ was #54 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Secretly Panicked~**** ♚ was #57 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Freaking Panicked~****♚ was #97 top eventing breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Darling Lili ♚ was #15 top dressage breeding mare overall.
Year #46: FelizNavdidad~*****♚ was #74 top dressage breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Downy Debut~*x7 ♚ was #71 top jumping breeding mare overall.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #2 top eventing warmblood sire.
Year #46: Peter Panic ♚ was #5 top eventing warmblood sire.
Year #46: Apocalypse Now ♚ was #18 top eventing warmblood sire.
Year #46: G. I. Joe ♚ was #23 top eventing warmblood sire.
Year #46: Bestill My Heart ♚ was #29 top eventing warmblood sire.
Year #46: G. I. Joe ♚ was #72 top dressage warmblood sire.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #1 top jumping warmblood sire.
Year #46: Peter Panic ♚ was #26 top jumping warmblood sire.
Year #46: Apocalypse Now ♚ was #80 top jumping warmblood sire.
Year #46: Mr. Fantastic ♚ was #9 top cross country warmblood sire.
Year #46: Peter Panic ♚ was #66 top cross country warmblood sire.
Year #46: The Sound of Music~x10 ♚ was #2 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Music To My Ears~~******♚ was #5 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Darling Lili ♚ was #9 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Magica~*** ♚ was #19 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Secret Ninjas~~****** ♚ was #21 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Lady Humour~******* ♚ was #27 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Persuasion~~*x9♚ was #33 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Secretly Panicked~**** ♚ was #36 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Freaking Panicked~****♚ was #54 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Thats My Grapes~****♚ was #62 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Earths Ready~******♚ was #77 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Manhattan Needs~*x6 ♚ was #91 top warmblood eventing breeding mare.
Year #46: Darling Lili ♚ was #1 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: FelizNavdidad~*****♚ was #12 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Completely Torn~**** ♚ was #24 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Music To My Ears~~******♚ was #28 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: The Sound of Music~x10 ♚ was #48 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Earths Ready~******♚ was #70 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Funny Stooge~** ♚ was #75 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Draco Ninja~** was #93 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: What The Freak?~******♚ was #96 top warmblood dressage breeding mare.
Year #46: Downy Debut~*x7 ♚ was #19 top warmblood jumping breeding mare.
Year #46: Smashing Dawn~** ♚ was #37 top warmblood jumping breeding mare.
Year #46: Elusive Man~~*******♚ was #56 top warmblood jumping breeding mare.
Year #46: Forever Lovely~*x8 ♚ was #88 top warmblood jumping breeding mare.
Year #46: Dinner Time~** ♚ was #95 top warmblood jumping breeding mare.
Year #46: Drastic Debut~*x9 ♚ was #66 top warmblood cross country breeding mare.
Year #46: El Milagro ♚ was #83 top freshman sire overall.
Year #46: El Milagro ♚ was #44 top freshman warmblood sire.


So I can safely say I do think my system works.

Now, you won't like my advice. LOL But it does work. Even my mares that aren't on the leaderboards generally produce their ratings or higher. Anything less than PPP is set free. I do not breed them AT ALL. That being said, I do have three mares that are EES that I breed, one is a wild apricot (duh!) and the other two have outproduced themselves. I also have an SEE filly that I am selling. Those are the rare cases.

Mares
PPP mares - sell them for no more than 45k each (exception to this rule is if they have produced very well or have a top 10 sire or dam as a parent). ONLY keep the ones that have produced a double elite. If they don't sell within 2 weeks, set them free. Crazy, right? Look back above at my ratings and awards. :) Now, that being said, I do have some PPP mares. I have 81 keepers. I have 41 PPP mares that are currently for sale. Most, if not all, are by leaderboard sires. But they didn't make my cut. Doesn't mean they wouldn't work for some of the smaller stables that don't care as much about ratings, and may help the color stables too, so that's why I sell before setting free.

EPP combos, if they have never produced ratings as good as themselves OR higher, sell them, no more than 65k each(exception to this rule is if they have produced very well or have a top 10 sire or dam as a parent). EPP and PPE sell better than PEP. I even sell double elite combos if they haven't produced as good as themselves.

Test mares? No, not a good idea.If a PPP mare is only producing PPP or less, how good of a test mare is she really? I don't keep test mares. My boys have to produce well with my good mares. I don't want mediocre mares to test my boys on. If I do want to test something, I use public broods if I'm out of mares.

I normally start culling when they are 5 years old. However, if I have a 4 year old that has not produced anything better than a single premium her first two shots, they go bye bye too.

Stallions

I am EXTREMELY harsh on my boys. Some of you are going to be shocked at how harsh I am. That being said, I hate having a lot of stallions. I despise it. I'd rather have a small band of extremely strong stallions than a large band of mediocre stallions. I do a lot of straw trades that helps bring new blood into my herd so I don't have to worry about inbreeding or crazy weaknesses running rampage through my barns anymore.

I currently have 26 stallions. Out of those, 2 are for sale. The only reason I am selling those two is they have awesome colors. But if they don't sell within the next few weeks, they get the snip too. I gelded 54 colts this year. 15 of them were EPP combos. The double elite/premium combos normally get either sold or tested. I do have 2 PEE combo geldings because they didn't make the cut as stallions. If a colt from a leaderboard stallion is not at least the same ratings, they have a chance of being cut. PPP are always cut....unless it's a great color, then I sell them to color breeders. I do not use them myself.

After 10 foals, if they are not on the all breed leaderboard, they have a chance of being cut or set free. I don't care what other leaderboard they are on. Exception to this rule is if those 10 foals are awesomely rated and/or the stud has an awesome color, like El Milagro. Wild PEE double pattern. He produces well. But, if he hadn't, he would have been sold or cut.

So there you go.

Edited at April 5, 2020 12:04 PM by Abstract Dunes
Elite Perfection's Culling Guide April 19, 2020 09:13 AM

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Hello and good morning/day/night,

I've been looking through verious things on culling and I was wondering how much all of this shifts with the addition of of the World Class rating and the current market. For instance, on this guide thingy, https://hyrimcanyon.weebly.com/culling.html, Hyrim talks about PPP foals as qualifying towards keeping a mare, but at this point in time an EEE mare that throws all PPPs is not particularly impressive.

To anyone reading this, have a nice day!
Elite Perfection's Culling Guide April 20, 2020 12:35 AM
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I was wondering the EXACT same thing. Would we be able to have someone create an updated version for culling? I've just been looking at mares with PPP, EE combos and EEE rated foals in their breeding report.
Elite Perfection's Culling Guide April 20, 2020 12:57 AM

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To help answer this for both of you:
This thread is OLD. Back when PEP mares sold for 65k...
In simple terms, PEP mares (unless very colorful, PEE+ consistent producing or with E+ bravery) should be sold or free ranged. They are not valuable anymore.
PEE mares are fine to start out but they should be producing at least PEP+ consistently. The market for PEE mares without lots of color is severely decreasing. But they are a good starting point.
EEE+ mares are the "in" right now. These are what you want. Breed them to nice studs to helpl keep good rating flowing. Then again, if they have bad training or non LB pedigrees plus bad production. Sell or free range. It's all about keeping the strong ladies!
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Now, PPP mares. Don't even bother with them unless they are ultracolorful or have nice bravery. They can't be depended upon when breeding.

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