Dark Shadows Estate
01:05:32 Bazz
She's nice but my freshie is weak in intelligence too!
Southern Heights
01:01:01 Karebear/Kare
-HEE Click- Here is one of them. Though she's weak in Int
Aussie Stables
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Ari - sorry if i came across as i don't know snarky.
Southern Heights
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Bazz, I have a few Mares entered into a brood auction but it looks like only one will be selling.. They're strong producers I'll let ya use
The Joker
12:57:47 Ari <3
Aight, I was just giving my opinion because you asked
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Ari - i am expecting flops, i was asked to help test even after i explained that
The Joker
12:55:51 Ari <3
I personally wouldn't do that many without expecting flops, but its personal preference really
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Anyone think 7 matches is too much?
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Send us both one XD
The Joker
12:54:06 Ari <3
Sure!
Aussie Stables
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Bazz - for sure!
Dark Shadows Estate
12:53:48 Bazz
Can ì shoot someone a .message with a few possible matches? Ha
Aussie Stables
12:52:53 Aussie - Golden
sorry for the wait with PM's Bazz i actually forgot to make the matches.
Aussie Stables
12:51:18 Aussie - Golden
most with tracked training actually.
Aussie Stables
12:50:18 Aussie - Golden
my aim was for a non-roan ISH stable after 1 RO i'm forgetting that :p
Aussie Stables
12:49:04 Aussie - Golden
Bazz - if your in Thunda's brood club there is only about 60 EWW+ of all breeds...
For You Blue
12:48:50 Joker/Blue
Want me to see what I've got laying around Bazz? :)
Dark Shadows Estate
12:48:25 Bazz
I still need to find mares to test my freshie with 😂
For You Blue
12:48:07 Joker/Blue
Nice nice
Aussie Stables
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nice Ari - my program is help Thunda test...
and second breed for my ISH.
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How to Write Good December 23, 2019 11:11 AM

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Or “The Guide to Making People Think You Know What You’re Doing”

Because half the time, writing is just managing to vomit up some words in a way that actually looks good. Basically, this guide is designed to provide hints, tricks, helpful methods, and other things to aid in producing something nice rather than the steaming heap of garbage that is known as “the first draft”. It can also be helpful for the role players since I intend to cover such things as character and world building.

Every writer has their own style and methods of development. This is simply what I’ve learned that works for me. You might find that some of it helps you, but some other method you use works better than mine. That’s fine, there’s really no wrong or write way to write.

Except Purple Prose. No one like Purple Prose.


Edited at December 23, 2019 01:40 PM by Eurynome
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  1. The First Draft of Hell

Some of the issues with the first draft can be attributed to trying to write when your brain/muse/creativity has gone on a 3-week bender to Cancun. It’s not going to happen and most anything you try to write is going to come out bad. I highly, highly, recommend the idea of having a “drabble document”. This is basically just something where you can, essentially, free form write. Dumb idea where the characters are wildly out of character? Drabble document. Idea that might work for your main story? Drabble document.

It also helps to do quick, one shot ideas. So, take a word or phrase and writing a short story around it. For example, I took the phrase “eating ice cream out of the carton” and wrote an 800 or so word short story involving the idea. Or, if you have an idea that’s bouncing around in your head, write it down. It might be something you never use, or it can become a rough draft of its own for something you work on down the road. In either case, it gets it out of your head and lets you focus on other things.

Writing, as with any art form, requires practice and the only way to practice is by actually writing. So, employ the drabble document I mentioned above. It can also help to have someone read over what you’ve written. Either they’ll slap you upside the head, ask what the hell you’re thinking, and proclaim the story to be gold, or they can give you some idea on where the story’s weak points are at.

It does help to have a rough idea of who your key characters are, what your general plot idea is, and your general setting(s). This is helpful so you don’t write yourself into a corner and try to figure out what to do. Being stuck in a corner results in Jupiter sized plot holes and dues ex machinas. At this same time, having everything firmly planned out with no room for deviation can make for a rough time because it makes it hard to add in your Utterly Awesome Terrific Idea. So, it’s a balancing act between planning and being able to veer off course for a chapter or two.

A word of caution. When you really, really get into writing a story, make sure you take breaks to work on other things. It’s very easy to pour a lot of work into a story and burn yourself out to the point of not wanting to work on it (see: Game of Thrones). Personally, I have a few different stories that I rotate around on. It keeps things fresh and interesting so I don’t get bored.

Unfortunately, sometimes a first draft is a turd no matter how much you try to polish it. At that point, it can be helpful to set it to the side and work on something else. Then, come back and visit it to try and dissect on what you dislike about it so much. Many times, you can take that unpolished turd of a first draft, do a 75% rewrite and turn it into something glorious. It can be as simple as the story needing a different setting, sometimes, it’s a total rewrite and you keep the spirit of the idea.

How to Write Good December 23, 2019 11:12 AM

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2. Bigger, Longer, Wordier Posts

While more geared towards the role players, story writers can also benefit from this since it also goes into readability. The biggest issue I see is people just doing the basic action and that’s it. There’s no detail on anything else. For this reason, I want you to keep the acronym FART in mind.

Feeling: what are the character’s emotions? Are they angry, scared, anxious?
Action: how are they moving? If they’re walking is it a quick, fast stride? Are they lumbering along?
Reason: why do feel the way they do? What caused them to react the way they did?
Thoughts: what are they thinking? What’s their thought process concerning something?

FART basically is something I think of when I write a character. It helps create something organic. So, let’s build a post! The setting is a space ship and we’re going to be following Clayton around. He’s not a morning person, doesn’t sleep all that well, and has an upcoming bounty hunt. He’s also half alien.

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window.

Okay, basic idea of what I want him to do, but it’s…Bland. It’s the bare bones of anything. So, let’s apply ‘Feeling’.

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window, feeling anxious.

Still kinda bare bones. He’s already doing an Action, but we can add more!

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window, feeling anxious. Behind him, his tail twisted up.

Already, we have something that’s twice as long as when we started. Let’s add ‘Reason’.

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window, feeling anxious. Behind him, his tail twisted up as he went over his plans for his upcoming bounty hunt.

This leads into an excellent place to sprinkle in some of his Thoughts.

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window, feeling anxious. Behind him, his tail twisted up as he went over his plans for his upcoming bounty hunt. He knew the place would be heavily guarded, but hadn’t found a good entry point yet.

Look at that. We turned a basic 10 word post into 45. Now, something I want to point out before I continue. Read the paragraph out loud, notice how it flows? Flow is good. It means better readability and it’s just nice and smooth. I often see people doing the following:

Clayton got out of bed. He walked to the window. His tail twisted behind him and he went over the plans for his bounty hunt. He knew the place would be guarded. He hadn’t found an entry point yet.

Read that out loud. It’s jarring, isn’t it? It has a lot of hard stops and isn’t very readable. Commas and semicolons are your friends. Join short sentences together, make them all cozy with each other. Your readers and role play partners will thank you. Now, we have a decent post, but you’re here for something impressive, yeah? You’re not limited to doing one or two actions per post. The more material you give your partner, the better grasp they have of your character and the better their character can react. Let’s keep applying FART, and remember: you don’t have to use it in order, or the entire acronym. It’s just something to help build up your writing.

Clayton got out of bed and walked to the window, feeling anxious. Behind him, his tail twisted up as he went over his plans for his upcoming bounty hunt. He knew the place would be heavily guarded, but hadn’t found a good entry point yet. Without a good entry point, he’d encounter heavy opposition and potentially spook his target. He rubbed his face with his hands to try and wake up, but it didn’t do much good. Finally, Clayton simply sighed, then trudged out of the bedroom and into the living room-kitchen area to make himself a cup of coffee.

Better, yeah? But we’re still missing a lot of things. Description, being the chief thing. So, let’s add that in with some more FART.

Clayton got out of the bed that’d been covered in a mountain of blanket and walked to the window that overlooked a gas giant surrounded by glittering ice rings. He hated feeling anxious first thing in the morning, knowing it’d set the mood for the rest of the day. Behind him, his tail twisted up as he went over his plans for his upcoming bounty hunt, still feeling unsatisfied with what he had so far. He knew the place would be heavily guarded, but hadn’t found a good entry point yet. Without a good entry point, he’d encounter heavy opposition and potentially spook his target. After pushing up the sleeves of his oversized, dark blue sweat shirt, he rubbed his face with his hands to try and wake up, but it didn’t do much good.

Finally, Clayton simply sighed, then trudged out of the bedroom and into the living room-kitchen area to make himself a cup of coffee. The whole area had been designed for someone with a tail, from the backless stools around the table to the couch with the lower part of the back removed. Unfortunately, the rest of the galaxy usually didn’t accommodate him so well. Automatically, he worked on making his coffee and sleepily shoved the grey mug under the coffee machine’s spout; no sugar, just black coffee. Faintly, he smiled when he finally smelled the fresh coffee.

And 10 words goes to two paragraphs. I could make it even longer by going into Clayton’s physical appearance or the descriptions of the rooms, but I think you get the gist at this point. Description, adjectives, and FART will go a long way in making lengthy posts. It can be hard to do, at first, but writing is much like exercising: the more you do it, the better you’ll get.

This leads me to the actual grammar. I’ve already covered flow, but spelling and grammar is just as important. Spellcheck your work. Make sure you understand the difference between they’re/their/there. It’s/Its is trickier and I’m pretty sure only grammar professors are going to know the difference. Use ‘an’ in front of words with vowels. Last, but not least, try to keep the same tense.

Meaning, if you’re using third person past, don’t suddenly switch to third person present. I.e “She was scared” and “She is scared”. Exception being, dialogue. Which causes me to jump into, you guessed it, dialogue! Dialogue is how the characters communicate and how one characters tells another that they’re being dumb and need to stop pining over someone. Don’t make your characters talk the same. Everyone has their own little verbal quirks.

Some characters might be verbose and use fancy words. Others might talk in short, clipped sentences. It can help to sit down and watch some show you’ve watched a thousand times before and pay attention to how differently the characters speak. This can also be useful for figuring out how to write facial expressions or body language in posts.

Essentially, there’s a lot of little things you can do to beef up your posts, but most of it is gong to be in the description of what your character is doing and feeling. However, don’t add in fancy, flowery words. That’s called Purple Prose, i.e calling “eyes” something silly like “oculars”. If your reader has to google or use a thesaurus to read your post/writing, or you’re doing the same to write it? You’re very likely doing Purple Prose and it significantly reduces the readability of your writing.


Edited at December 23, 2019 12:02 PM by Eurynome
How to Write Good December 23, 2019 11:12 AM

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How to Write Good March 12, 2021 06:49 AM
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First, this is a great post! It reminds me of when I took a creative writing class (in a good way); it's been too long since I did much creative writing, so it's a good refresher, too. Also, your story portion used correct grammar and syntax as far as I could see, which makes me so happy because it's so rare. As for the rest of it, I'm a big fan of writing in a conversational way, so I really like using partial sentences to get the right feeling and commas more to indicate where pauses in the sentence would occur than by the tecnically correct way to better capture how the author wants their writing to flow.

Just a warning to the masses: It is possible to be overly decriptive (and I'm not talking about Purple Prose), making the writing clunky and the story slow and boring. Be thoughtful about what actually adds to the story and what is unnecessary filler (I struggle with this).

I'm a little sad you don't cover grammar or syntax much. They are very important for sounding like you know what you're doing. Also, it's/its is very simple (and no, I'm not a professor/teacher of writing or anything like it--I'm not even a college graduate). The first is "it is." The second is possive, "belong to it." Based on rules for other words, they should both be it's (actually, a friend of mine read a book about the origin of various parts of language and informed me that "it's," as in "it is," was supposed to be 'tis, but no one followed the rule and "it's" became common usage), but because we need to differentiate, the one that makes the most sense to have an apostrophe is the one that combines two words (it is). "Its" is not at risk of being confused for a plural, so it works fine for the possessive form of "it." Please try to get these right; its jarring to encounter the wrong form when reading (no? And yes, that was intentional. Leaving it like that makes my skin crawl).

I just have to point out a grammatical issue with the title because the point of this thread is intended to make one's writing look good, so a grammatically incorrect title is a bit contrary to the purpose. The grammatically correct way to say the title of this thread is "How to Write Well." "Good" is incorrect. I don't know an easy rule for recognizing when to use each, unfortunately. I think it's because "good" is a noun and we need an adverb in this instance because we're describing the qualities of a verb, but I'm not 100% sure, and that's not really an easy rule. But "write correct" would also be incorrect--"write correctly" is correct (this correct is an adjective), and again, the first version is a noun, and the second is an adverb.

Also, I would like to address a pet peeve of mine that is not mentioned at all in this post, relating to grammar and making your characters sound like the type of person they are (someone with a high level of education, a pedantic personality, and/or who's older/from a past time would use this, and all grammar, correctly; someone with a lower level of education, regardless of era/age, or a laidback/carefree personality might not). Given even people who should know better than to make mistakes of this sort (like writers of TV series and movies), exemplified in the American TV series Elementary, when Sherlock Holmes, a character who's nature is such that he would always use correct grammar, incorrectly says, "______ and me" rather than, "______ and I," someone needs to set the record straight (not that this will reach many people). For the betterment of humanity, the rule for using "I" or "me" in combination with another name/individual (for example, "Sarah and I went to the barn," or "Other people's use of this rule, especially when it's their job to know how to speak and write correctly, is a constant irritant for my mother and me"):

The easy way is to just to say the sentence without the other individual: "I went to the barn," not, "Me went to the barn;" "Other people's use of this rule is a constant irritant for me," not, "Other people's use of this rule is a constant irritant for I." In sentences with another individual and "I," the individuals also be simplied to "We," and sentences with another person and "me" can be simplified to "us." The personal pronoun always follows the other individual/name/object.

Tecnically, "I" is used when the individuals are the ones performing the verb (i.e. the subject of the sentence), and "me" is used when they are being acted on. In the first sentence, "are" is the verb, and in the second, it's "is." So in the "I" example, Sarah and I are the ones acting: We are going. In the "me" example, my mother and I (this is grammatically correct here, but in the example sentence "my mother and me" is correct--try the rules to see) are being acted on: other people's use of this rule is a constant irritant to us. "Other people's use of this rule" is the subject of the sentence, the thing performing the verb.

I could keep going, lecture about commas, colons and semicolons, and more... but I won't. If anyone has questions about grammar or syntax, feel free to ask. I don't have answers to everything, and I make plenty of of mistakes, but I like to see things done correctly to the greatest extent of my knowledge. I am a college student, and anytime I have to peer edit, I am terribly saddened by the number of people who are clueless despite high school and a college level education that, by the time we reach these classes, should have included several writing classes (to be clear, I primarily blame the instruction, not the students; most of what I know about grammar comes from my mother, who is also not a professor/teacher of writing, rather than from classes). If y'all have anything to ask, I want to help! Just don't ask me about spelling. I can't tell you how often I type a word into a Google search to get it to correct my spelling.

Also, Eurynome is 100% correct that taking breaks as you write is important; additionally, taking a few hours or days off between writing and proof reading will enormously increase your chances of catching errors or other weirdnesses; we tend get what we expect to be there into our heads and miss what's actually there, and a break lets us clear out our expectations so we can really see. Notice that repeatedly in the guide, Eurynome tells us to read the pieces of story out loud to hear how it flows--don't just read your writing, read it out loud, and it will help not just with flow, but also other issues of grammar, syntax, word choice (as in its/it's, their/they're/there, two/to/too, further/farther, etc.), and spelling.


Edited at March 12, 2021 06:51 AM by sage78
How to Write Good March 12, 2021 07:07 AM

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I think the title was meant to be grammatically incorrect as a joke. No need to criticize, Eury is helping writers across HEE, and it was so nice of them to take the time.
That said, thank you so much, Eury!
How to Write Good March 12, 2021 08:18 AM

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Entire books are written about how to write "good". I don't think it's realistic or fair to expect Eury to cover ALL of that in a single forum post 😂
How to Write Good March 12, 2021 10:41 AM

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FirstLightFarms said:
Entire books are written about how to write "good". I don't think it's realistic or fair to expect Eury to cover ALL of that in a single forum post 😂


But how good is those books wrote

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