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So.. Now that we have a extra tier, I'm not sure where I fit in and I often judge myself to harshly. Right now I feel like I should be in Tier 5 which doens't exist lol. Currently I'm in Tier 4, but and charging 75k which is higher than what Tier 4's price range is. Should I move up to Tier 3? Another question is how much for pricing? I only offer all cuts, currently, so should I up the price or lower it? Should I be in a different Tier than 3/4? Or should I just stick in 4?
I would love your help and opinions <3 Here are some examples of mine <3 |
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Ok! Please feel free to post any help now! I could really use it! |
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Still haven't gotten any responces and I updated the images a bit <3 |
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If you're charging higher than your current tier, then definitely move up a tier! Tiers are entirely dependent upon your current pricing, so that should be what dictates your decision when trying to decide which tier you are in. If you are getting the prices of Tier 3, then that's where you belong. Regarding how much you should charge, it depends on what people are willing to pay. Let's say you are charging 100k for a full image with all cuts. If people are buying at that price, and your shop order spots are consistently being filled (not snapped up within minutes), then that is a good price. If people are scrambling to get a spot, that's a sign you can up your price as your work is in high demand. But if you're having a hard time selling art, and your shop spots are often left open for days or weeks on end, then you should lower your price. |
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WildWillow said:
If you're charging higher than your current tier, then definitely move up a tier! Tiers are entirely dependent upon your current pricing, so that should be what dictates your decision when trying to decide which tier you are in. If you are getting the prices of Tier 3, then that's where you belong. Regarding how much you should charge, it depends on what people are willing to pay. Let's say you are charging 100k for a full image with all cuts. If people are buying at that price, and your shop order spots are consistently being filled (not snapped up within minutes), then that is a good price. If people are scrambling to get a spot, that's a sign you can up your price as your work is in high demand. But if you're having a hard time selling art, and your shop spots are often left open for days or weeks on end, then you should lower your price.
Ok! Thank you so should I lower my prices and stay in the Tier I am at since I'm not getting a ton of orders? Thanks again Willow <3
I am also open for advice! I feel like I want to work on drawing hair, and grounding a little more, along with more markings <3 |
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Wolf Dancer said:
Ok! Thank you so should I lower my prices and stay in the Tier I am at since I'm not getting a ton of orders? Thanks again Willow <3
I am also open for advice! I feel like I want to work on drawing hair, and grounding a little more, along with more markings <3
You're welcome! Yes, if you are not getting many orders lower your price and stay in your current tier. It may take a little trial and error to figure out what price is the "sweet spot" & that's okay. :) If you have't checked out my tutorial, I definitely recommend it for doing hair especially. I don't touch on grounding much in it, as it's a tricky thing to do. Personally, I find doing high contrast pieces - like the one I did in my tutorial - helps to really understand highlights, shadows, color tones, and hair as everything is more intense compared to the more subtle colors of a natural piece. In your pieces, I don't see a lot of highlight/shadow work done on the horse. Practice identifying the light in your chosen background, and how that would play with the horse. I touch on this in my tutorial. For example, in your first piece, the light source is behind the horse. So the side of the horse that is closer to the "camera" would be cast in shadow, while the top/outline of the horse would really be highlighted as your light source would catch on it. I also don't see much of a shadow on the ground either. In your pink piece, the horse's reflection would not be at a diagonal. It would be directly beneath the horse, appearing as if it's coming towards the "camera". Working on these subtle little details in art might not seem like much, but they can really advance your technique majorly. I personally examined professional photos of horses, finding the lighting source, then seeing how it casted over the horse, and where the shadow ended up on the ground, and found that helped a lot when I was working with stock. Another thing I notice in your pink toned piece is a lot of "artifacts" around the horse's mane and tail. Take your time when cutting out stock, ensuring that you won't have any bits floating around in your final piece. I sometimes find that cutting out your stock over a solid colored layer that provides contrast to the stock, is helpful. So for a horse stock that's really yellow toned, I will place it on a solid blue background for cutting out as it helps me spot any tiny pixels I missed. On the piece with the horse & the moon, it looks like you smudged the stock. If you did, it appears as though you smudged up & down. This really makes the horse blurred and loses a lot of the muscle & color definition. If you want to smudge stock, work with a low intensity brush in small circles, following the natural form of the horse. So work in muscle groups, smudging shadow with shadow, and highlight with highlight. And make sure not to smudge along or over the outline of the horse - it makes the stock's edges blurred. I personally don't smudge, and I instead use a denoise tool. |
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Thank you Willow! I meant to post that version of the pink on as a WIP. At what point though do I stop lowering prices? Note: This might seem vain, and selfish, and concited, but at what point do I stop lowering prices? I feel like my art is good enough to be worth more than 0ebs, but it's not going for 10k, should I lower it to 0? Or do a Pay What you Want type thing? |
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Wolf Dancer said:
Thank you Willow! I meant to post that version of the pink on as a WIP. At what point though do I stop lowering prices? Note: This might seem vain, and selfish, and concited, but at what point do I stop lowering prices? I feel like my art is good enough to be worth more than 0ebs, but it's not going for 10k, should I lower it to 0? Or do a Pay What you Want type thing?
Would anyone be interested in a Pay What you Want? Basically you order art, and I make it and based off of what you get you could pay how much you think it's worth? |
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Body prep seems pretty decent, but grounding, hair, and shading could use work. I stand by the idea I believe Jello (I could be wrong on the person) said where your tier your in depends on what you're comfortable with. If you aren't comfortable doing your own hair or being able to do markings/color changes, I wouldn't go higher then tier 3. If you struggle with grounding and shadows, I would do tier 4, and then figure out where in that tier's price range you think you fit. As for "Pay what you want", I would be careful with that, as people may underpay you or it may cause emotions of thinking you aren't getting what you're worth. You could always just auction custom slots and premades to achieve the same effect and help guide you on pricing, but auction pricing tends to get inflated. (Example: I charge 500k for a custom in my shop, but an auction custom slot could probably go for 2mil or higher) |
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Not great at pricing but I will say that in the gap between capture day and RO, art sales do decrease, so I wouldn't hyper focus/judge on what price it is worth/has sold for the past week or so :) |
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